13th&Jackson Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: Lucas is starting to look a little contact shy. Can't help but think running him between the tackles, at his size, has worn him down physically and mentally. Michigan isn't a great measure of where we're at talent wise. Rutgers, Illinois, MSU, and Purdue will give us a chance to see what we can do against comparable talent. Offense looked better early; that's my positive takeaway. Sagarin has us behind all four of those teams, plus NW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Sagarin has us behind all four of those teams, plus NW. What is bad is that our recruiting is getting worse every year. We just got a commitment from a RB that isn't even ranked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Nobody thinks we will have the talent level of UM but the discrepancy shouldn't be this different . Also I think it was more UM sleep walking through the first quarter that made our offense look better early. It's not just the talent discrepancy of the starters, it's the depth of talent. You're correct the gap shouldn't be as wide as it is, but that's the current situation. And the penalties killed our momentum to end the first half. Easily could've been 14-14 to start the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Sagarin has us behind all four of those teams, plus NW. Good point. We'll find out what this team and staff have left in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Welp, On a positive note, hopefully IU hoops gets some good news tomorrow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: I stopped watching…but my god this sounds like a dumpster fire. I watched in the 4 screen in 1 mode on YouTube Tv. That way I can watch good football while still keeping an eye on what’s going on..I occasionally turn the sound to the IU game but when I hear about the qb and OC carousel and how we will never get things back on track until we fix those positions I realize I’m not going to here anything I don’t already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 The good news is Michigan St blew a huge lead today and lost…couldn’t have happened to a better school. Also Purdue is getting whipped…bad news…after watching us today…pretty sure we can’t beat either of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Going up against the talent and depth of Michigan isn't going to be good for most teams. Build off that 1st quarter look. Must win next week. Still a path to 6 but the margin of error is zero now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 While I would love a young up and coming OC as head coach the BIG is just gonna get crazy next year with more talented teams and coaches. They need a dion type and throw the bank at him. No way IU gets urban Meyer but that’s what they need. Someone proven, maybe has some baggage so isn’t at the top level anymore, but would be an instant injection of hype. Not sure that person is even out there that IU could get but that’s really what they need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Going up against the talent and depth of Michigan isn't going to be good for most teams. Build off that 1st quarter look. Must win next week. Still a path to 6 but the margin of error is zero now. Thank you 6! That’s about all we can get out of this game. -Build on the first quarter -OL and play calling looked better - Carey looked much better than Bell. - We were able to run a little (early on) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 This is what I picture when I think of you guys watching IU football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) In regards to the talent gap… The announcers today commented that with NIL and the portal, programs like IU’s are going to have their best players poached by better teams. Mentioned Barner and McCullough as two examples. I don’t know how to change that dynamic without rolling up the Brinks truck Edited October 14, 2023 by Steubenhoosier 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: Thank you 6! That’s about all we can get out of this game. -Build on the first quarter -OL and play calling looked better - Carey looked much better than Bell. - We were able to run a little (early on) Besides some of the first quarter I didn't see any difference in the offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, iuthruandthru said: While I would love a young up and coming OC as head coach the BIG is just gonna get crazy next year with more talented teams and coaches. They need a dion type and throw the bank at him. No way IU gets urban Meyer but that’s what they need. Someone proven, maybe has some baggage so isn’t at the top level anymore, but would be an instant injection of hype. Not sure that person is even out there that IU could get but that’s really what they need. Purdue got one of those coaches and he left. We need a Unicorn. Someone that calls Indiana home and can coach and recruit at an elite level. Not sure it is out there. I don’t think we have an alum like Woody on the football side. I know Randel-El is in coaching but have no clue if he can be a head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Artesian_86 said: Thank you 6! That’s about all we can get out of this game. -Build on the first quarter -OL and play calling looked better - Carey looked much better than Bell. - We were able to run a little (early on) I don’t take away too much from first couple drives of a game. Most coaches can game script the first few series and if the opponent comes out flat because everyone looks past IU then that really doesn’t tell me a ton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: In regards to the talent gap… The announcers today commented that with NIL and the portal, programs like IU’s are going to have their best players poached by better teams. Mentioned Barner and McCullough as two examples. I don’t know how to change that dynamic without rolling up the Brinks truck No worries….we will have our pick of MAC players….maybe we can get that QB from Akron that lit us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Head coach. Be a strong leader who can take the reins with a strong voice and take command. Set up high quality assistant coaches who can scheme and teach. Be a tireless recruiter who can close and sell. Someone who can take command of NIL and elevate it. It’s a CEO, leadership, and command/knowledge position. I don’t know that we need to look inside the family or just grab the nearest assistant. Search far and wide and get someone who checks all those boxes. I don’t want to hire somebody just because they were here. Kevin Wilson had demons but that’s the prototype of a hire that can work. I don’t know that I want a guy who hasn’t seen NIL and recruiting thriving somewhere where he knows what that needs to be and how to get it to work. We need that installed and expanded. Edited October 14, 2023 by BobSaccamanno 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Head coach. Be a strong leader who can take the reins with a strong voice and take command. Set up high quality assistant coaches who can scheme and teach. Be a tireless recruiter who can close and sell. Someone who can take command of NIL and elevate it. It’s a CEO, leadership, and command/knowledge position. I don’t know that we need to look inside the family or just grab the nearest assistant. Search far and wide and get someone who checks all those boxes. I don’t want to hire somebody just because they were here. Kevin Wilson had demons but that’s the prototype of a hire that can work. I don’t know that I want a guy who hasn’t seen NIL and recruiting thriving somewhere where he knows what that needs to be and how to get it to work. We need that installed and expanded. Kansas football found a coach from a non Power 5 program. Surely there is another guy like that who would jump at the chance to coach in the B1G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 I hate to start throwing names out there, but right now both Oregon St and Washington St are in the top 25 and both are about to be homeless as far as conference affiliation. Maybe those coaches don’t want to not be coaching in a power four. Maybe some of those players would follow. I really hate thinking that way because I really like Tom Allen the man. It just feels at times like certain conclusions are inevitable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 If the season ends with us winning only 2-3 games. I can't imagine the apathy towards next year if they bring Allan back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I just think we need to pick one QB and go with that player. We can't get any rhythm on offense by changing the QB's ever couple of possessions. Also I think we try to play to many WR is the game as well. To me there is no need to try to play 5 or 6 different receivers in the game. Pick you best 3 and keep them in the field as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: Someone who can take command of NIL and elevate it That's the key right there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Parakeet Jones said: I hate to start throwing names out there, but right now both Oregon St and Washington St are in the top 25 and both are about to be homeless as far as conference affiliation. Maybe those coaches don’t want to not be coaching in a power four. Maybe some of those players would follow. I really hate thinking that way because I really like Tom Allen the man. It just feels at times like certain conclusions are inevitable. I don't know TA the man, I just know he's been the HC for IUFB for a while and they are worse off now then when he started. The goal is the opposite. So it's time to go. Edited October 15, 2023 by OGIUAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article280460074.html Pretty sure this kid was once an IU commit and had a huge day in his debut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I thought we had'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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