Seeking6 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Leathernecks said: Cubs have scored 1 run in 5 straight games. All 5 runs are from solo home runs. That has to be a record. I decided last night I'm no longer going to be frustrated and negative with this team anymore. Been doing it for 2-3 months and it's taxing. So normally I would say what an embarrassment these guys should feel because it's not like they are facing ace starters....but since I'm being positive i won't say how bad this lineup is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I decided last night I'm no longer going to be frustrated and negative with this team anymore. Been doing it for 2-3 months and it's taxing. So normally I would say what an embarrassment these guys should feel because it's not like they are facing ace starters....but since I'm being positive i won't say how bad this lineup is right now. As long as the pitching keeps this up I think the hitting will come around. More importantly the Cubs need timely hitting. But look on the bright side, you are still in 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Murphy can also play third, which is huge given the health of Bryant. That was a major addition for the Cubs and I'd expect Murphy to play every day one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Murphy has always seemed like he'd be a decent clubhouse guy too. Maybe a fresh face who swings a consistent bat will help change the current up and down nature of the Cubs a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Leathernecks said: Murphy has always seemed like he'd be a decent clubhouse guy too. Maybe a fresh face who swings a consistent bat will help change the current up and down nature of the Cubs a bit. I still don't understand the trade. But Murphy is a bona fide bat for sure. Hope he continues it with the Cubs and he has plenty of play-off experience. I still think Russell is on his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 10:07 PM, Leathernecks said: Cubs have scored 1 run in 5 straight games. All 5 runs are from solo home runs. That has to be a record. As it turns out.......yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/22/2018 at 1:59 PM, KoB2011 said: Murphy can also play third, which is huge given the health of Bryant. That was a major addition for the Cubs and I'd expect Murphy to play every day one way or the other. Sure he can “play” third but is that ideal defensively? It’s like saying Matt Carpenter can play 3rd. Sure, but your defense will suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 I know there’s still plenty of season left and things can change but it’s crazy to think where the Cardinals are now relative to where they were at the All-Star break. Especially when you realize that 4/5 of their rotation started the year in Memphis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I know there’s still plenty of season left and things can change but it’s crazy to think where the Cardinals are now relative to where they were at the All-Star break. Especially when you realize that 4/5 of their rotation started the year in Memphis. Or one could say whoever is in charge of evaluating talent at the big league level sucks. Maybe they should have been up sooner? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Or one could say whoever is in charge of evaluating talent at the big league level sucks. Maybe they should have been up sooner? Just a thought. Yeah that’s a good point too. Getting rid of Matheny was a huge step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Yeah that’s a good point too. Getting rid of Matheny was a huge step forward. Agree. I was a Matheny fan as a player (even as a Cubs fan) but that doesn't always translate. That whole organization needed and still needs an F5. New approach, new ideas...just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Agree. I was a Matheny fan as a player (even as a Cubs fan) but that doesn't always translate. That whole organization needed and still needs an F5. New approach, new ideas...just my 2 cents. I loved him as a player too. Still can’t believe he got the job in the first place. You have a HOF manager retire after an amazing WS title and turn over the keys to a guy with 0 managerial experience? I feel like they could’ve had Maddon or Francona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I loved him as a player too. Still can’t believe he got the job in the first place. You have a HOF manager retire after an amazing WS title and turn over the keys to a guy with 0 managerial experience? I feel like they could’ve had Maddon or Francona. Kind of like a program turning over the keys to a guy who has been an assistant his entire life. Haha. Knight-Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: I loved him as a player too. Still can’t believe he got the job in the first place. You have a HOF manager retire after an amazing WS title and turn over the keys to a guy with 0 managerial experience? I feel like they could’ve had Maddon or Francona. Well he had an overall record that was 591-474 which equates to a winning percentage of .555 in a little over 6 1/2 years. Looks to me like he was just fine as the Cards skipper. Rigid or not, he was a winner and is already receiving phone calls from prospective employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Sure he can “play” third but is that ideal defensively? It’s like saying Matt Carpenter can play 3rd. Sure, but your defense will suffer. Your defense suffers no matter where you play him; he is playing for his bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 hours ago, rico said: Well he had an overall record that was 591-474 which equates to a winning percentage of .555 in a little over 6 1/2 years. Looks to me like he was just fine as the Cards skipper. Rigid or not, he was a winner and is already receiving phone calls from prospective employers. Just fine? He was about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row. That’s a pretty good way to lose your job if you’re managing the cardinals. The guy couldn’t manage a bullpen, he would use guys too much to the point where they’d break down, and he’d stick with veterans way too long even after it was obvious they weren’t effective. I’m sure some other team will give him a chance but if you happen to be a fan of that team, my advice is to prepare to be let down. The guy doesn’t have it. He never should’ve been hired in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Matheny mismanages his bullpen as well as anyone. Change was needed in my opinion. Cubs are dominating the division and if the Cardinals want to have a chance at a division title in the next 4-5 years....Mike had to go. Problem now is Shildt has done such a good job...do you not pursue Girardi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: Just fine? He was about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row. That’s a pretty good way to lose your job if you’re managing the cardinals. The guy couldn’t manage a bullpen, he would use guys too much to the point where they’d break down, and he’d stick with veterans way too long even after it was obvious they weren’t effective. I’m sure some other team will give him a chance but if you happen to be a fan of that team, my advice is to prepare to be let down. The guy doesn’t have it. He never should’ve been hired in the first place. You wouldn't have made it in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, rico said: You wouldn't have made it in the 70's. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Matheny mismanages his bullpen as well as anyone. Change was needed in my opinion. Cubs are dominating the division and if the Cardinals want to have a chance at a division title in the next 4-5 years....Mike had to go. Problem now is Shildt has done such a good job...do you not pursue Girardi? I’d be okay with giving the job to Shildt honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: How so? The Cards went the whole decade never making the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, rico said: The Cards went the whole decade never making the play-offs. Yeah that’s true. I started really following them in the late 90’s (98 is what I remember with the Sosa/McGwire year) and since then, it’s been a hell of a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Matheny mismanages his bullpen as well as anyone. Change was needed in my opinion. Cubs are dominating the division and if the Cardinals want to have a chance at a division title in the next 4-5 years....Mike had to go. Problem now is Shildt has done such a good job...do you not pursue Girardi? No. Give me Mike Shildt all day long. Guy is tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, 5 championships said: No. Give me Mike Shildt all day long. Guy is tough! Impressive run no doubt....but the feel good stuff of how they are playing now has to be balanced vs long term success. I'll say it again. IU gave Davis a contract because of one tourney run. All based on short term thinking. Trust me...I'd love for Girardi not to be in that dugout...as a Cubs fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, 5 championships said: No. Give me Mike Shildt all day long. Guy is tough! Exactly. And unlike Matheny, he paid his dues and worked his way up through the ranks. The guy is smart and actually seeks advice from his other coaches. Matheny made all the decisions on his own without input from others. Way too stubborn and rigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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