IU Scott Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 17 hours ago, 5fouls said: 4 of the 5 scoring defense leaders in college football are from the Big Ten 1. Wisconsin 2. Penn State 3. Oregon 4. Ohio State 5. Iowa. For the record, IU is 29th In 4 IU wins they have given up 30 points with two shutouts and I the two losses they have given up91 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblaz13 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 18 hours ago, IU Scott said: In 4 IU wins they have given up 30 points with two shutouts and I the two losses they have given up91 points. Combined scoring in the (2 )games decided by 34 (aka.. 10 points LOL ) or less is 65- 64 total margin in IU's favor.. However that is also slightly distorted to those paying real close attention. IU has arguably squandered the most scoring opportunities in those 2 closer games, and even the MSU Fumble return TD that makes the combined margin only +1 was a fluke. Indiana did that to itself though. That is the stat that likely does change the most after the next 4 games.. Unless IU wins 2 and loses 2 of the next 4 by a single point - we should know more how they compare in the main pack of the B1G. .Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 This is kind of old news, but I didn't realize how far Bret Bielema has fallen since leaving Wisconsin. I saw today that he's the DL coach for the Patriots and had some beef with Michael Bennett. I forgot that he was fired by Arkansas a couple years ago. I said when he left Wisconsin he never should have left because in the West he could have won 10+ games almost every year and stayed there as long as he wanted. Bet he regrets that decision now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Leathernecks said: This is kind of old news, but I didn't realize how far Bret Bielema has fallen since leaving Wisconsin. I saw today that he's the DL coach for the Patriots and had some beef with Michael Bennett. I forgot that he was fired by Arkansas a couple years ago. I said when he left Wisconsin he never should have left because in the West he could have won 10+ games almost every year and stayed there as long as he wanted. Bet he regrets that decision now. Don't quote me on this but I remember he and Barry having problems. Bielema wanted more $ for his assistants or something....plus anyone who knows Barry Alvarez his shadow looms very, very big at Wisconsin. Over everything. Gary Andersen leaving after 2 years was pretty telling too. Bielema will hideout in the NFL for a couple years and he'll end up in college game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Don't quote me on this but I remember he and Barry having problems. Bielema wanted more $ for his assistants or something....plus anyone who knows Barry Alvarez his shadow looms very, very big at Wisconsin. Over everything. Gary Andersen leaving after 2 years was pretty telling too. Bielema will hideout in the NFL for a couple years and he'll end up in college game again. Part of the issue was Bielema's timing. Chryst left to take the head coaching position at Pitt at the beginning of 2012, and Beilema's departure at the end of 2012 was somewhat unexpected. Chryst was the favorite, but didn't feel comfortable leaving Pitt after only one season (what a concept, huh?). Anderson never was a good fit in Madison culturally, and when he left, he questioned Wisconsin's "high standards" for admissions. The hell....they're like the bulk of the B10...solid academics but it ain't Oxford. Chryst is Wisconsin's guy and Alvarez's guy. As for Bielema, I'd look for him to be in the running at Iowa when Ferentz hangs it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachv Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 3:23 PM, IU Scott said: In 4 IU wins they have given up 30 points with two shutouts and I the two losses they have given up91 points. the defense only gave up 76 points in the losses to osu and msu. for that matter, the defense has pitched 3 shutouts this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Seeing reports that the Mississippi St. HC is the front runner for the Rutgers job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 hours ago, coachv said: the defense only gave up 76 points in the losses to osu and msu. for that matter, the defense has pitched 3 shutouts this season Two shutouts because UCONN scored 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 hours ago, rico said: Seeing reports that the Mississippi St. HC is the front runner for the Rutgers job. Now that would bring all sorts of levels of comedy. A coach leaving SEC job for Rutgers. MSU fans probably happy it could happen. I remember when Moorehead was the #1 assistant coach (not sure how they determine that) while at Penn St. Maybe this is a chance for him to get back closer to home I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Now that would bring all sorts of levels of comedy. A coach leaving SEC job for Rutgers. MSU fans probably happy it could happen. I remember when Moorehead was the #1 assistant coach (not sure how they determine that) while at Penn St. Maybe this is a chance for him to get back closer to home I guess. Probably sees the writing on the wall at Missy St.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachv Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Two shutouts because UCONN scored 3 points uconn scores 3 but not on the defense. a turnover deep in indiana territory directly led to the points. indiana's defense came in and stuffed uconn with a 3 and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, coachv said: uconn scores 3 but not on the defense. a turnover deep in indiana territory directly led to the points. indiana's defense came in and stuffed uconn with a 3 and out. those still counts against the defense stats for points given up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachv Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 of course. but we all know the defense was on the sideline and had nothing to do with it. just like we know the defense gave up 76 points to msu and osu, not 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: those still counts against the defense stats for points given up Scott defending a purely analytical/statistical standpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 I see some people aren't very happy about tOSU playing tonight. Detracts from their HS football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, rico said: I see some people aren't very happy about tOSU playing tonight. Detracts from their HS football. I don't like college games on Friday either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Scott defending a purely analytical/statistical standpoint? Never said I was against stats but what I don't like as well is the over use of analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Never said I was against stats but what I don't like as well is the over use of analytics. Some of us just like poking at ya Scott. We wouldn't do it if we didn't like ya. Keep up the the good fight my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: Some of us just like poking at ya Scott. We wouldn't do it if we didn't like ya. Keep up the the good fight my friend. I know but I just look at your regular old fashion stats like points and points against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know but I just look at your regular old fashion stats like points and points against. And even then those stats don't tell the "whole" story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, rico said: And even then those stats don't tell the "whole" story. Correct because people can make any stat look like what they want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Correct because people can make any stat look like what they want to see. He's not changing the stat lol The offense has literally given up 17 points from TOs this year. You can't argue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: He's not changing the stat lol The offense has literally given up 17 points from TOs this year. You can't argue that. I am not really arguing anything just saying those stats still go against the defense points allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 55 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Correct because people can make any stat look like what they want to see. So true. I've had people tell me I'm a 1.0, but if I squint hard enough, that becomes a 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: So true. I've had people tell me I'm a 1.0, but if I squint hard enough, that becomes a 10. I AM MORE OF A .01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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