btownqb Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, rico said: You will get a kick out of this...I read an article yesterday that said the odds were that if Notre Dame went 10-2 that they would get left out of a New Year's Six bowl. The irony is that with current projections that either Virginia or Va Tech would play in the Orange Bowl. ACC is so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: ACC is so bad Pathetic is more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, rico said: You will get a kick out of this...I read an article yesterday that said the odds were that if Notre Dame went 10-2 that they would get left out of a New Year's Six bowl. The irony is that with current projections that either Virginia or Va Tech would play in the Orange Bowl. As a Canes fan I follow plenty of South Florida writers, journalists,etc.....prevailing thought is this. If Clemson stays in CFP and no other team from ACC finishes in top 25 of final bowl.....the Orange Bowl Board of Directors get to choose who they want in regardless of final records for ACC schools. The word is they want Alabama/Miami game. Sure the Va Tech or Virginia folks might get ticked but if neither finish in top 25...the scenario I said has a real strong chance of happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: As a Canes fan I follow plenty of South Florida writers, journalists,etc.....prevailing thought is this. If Clemson stays in CFP and no other team from ACC finishes in top 25 of final bowl.....the Orange Bowl Board of Directors get to choose who they want in regardless of final records for ACC schools. The word is they want Alabama/Miami game. Sure the Va Tech or Virginia folks might get ticked but if neither finish in top 25...the scenario I said has a real strong chance of happening. Well the odds/projections say that either UVa or VaTech will be in the Orange. Regardless, an undeserving ACC team is on course to be in that bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 14 hours ago, rico said: You will get a kick out of this...I read an article yesterday that said the odds were that if Notre Dame went 10-2 that they would get left out of a New Year's Six bowl. The irony is that with current projections that either Virginia or Va Tech would play in the Orange Bowl. Considering ND handled both of those easily that is a surprise because no way another ACC team is ranked at year end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, btownqb said: ACC is so bad Honestly I don’t know why ND doesn’t join it. If they get assurances they would be put in opposite division as Clemson they would have excellent shot at CFP and could still have USC as out of conference foe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: Honestly I don’t know why ND doesn’t join it. If they get assurances they would be put in opposite division as Clemson they would have excellent shot at CFP and could still have USC as out of conference foe. Ummmm, the TV contract with NBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, dgambill said: Considering ND handled both of those easily that is a surprise because no way another ACC team is ranked at year end. Notre Dame beat Va Tech by 1 point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, rico said: Ummmm, the TV contract with NBC? Good call lol...is there something that says NBC couldn’t still broadcast them? 12 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Notre Dame beat Va Tech by 1 point Yes brain fart..but still they beat both and fans would travel and at least get more eyes on tv so I don’t see why they would not get the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: Good call lol...is there something that says NBC couldn’t still broadcast them Ask the ACC network about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 hours ago, dgambill said: Honestly I don’t know why ND doesn’t join it. If they get assurances they would be put in opposite division as Clemson they would have excellent shot at CFP and could still have USC as out of conference foe. Money (they keep whatever they negotiate in their next tv contract). Schedule flexibility (including playing traditional rivals - much more difficult if locked into a conference schedule; probably not realistic to play conference schedule plus USC, Stanford, and Navy). National exposure/branding. I think the reality is that ND believes they build a stronger brand as an independent, and it allows them to play more big name programs to sustain that brand (e.g., home and home against Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State, Wisconsin in recent or upcoming seasons, in addition to ACC teams and traditional rivals). There also just isn’t a significant incentive to join the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jimsorgi said: Money (they keep whatever they negotiate in their next tv contract). Schedule flexibility (including playing traditional rivals - much more difficult if locked into a conference schedule; probably not realistic to play conference schedule plus USC, Stanford, and Navy). National exposure/branding. I think the reality is that ND believes they build a stronger brand as an independent, and it allows them to play more big name programs to sustain that brand (e.g., home and home against Oklahoma, Georgia, Ohio State, Wisconsin in recent or upcoming seasons, in addition to ACC teams and traditional rivals). There also just isn’t a significant incentive to join the ACC. That last sentence doesn't have to be true if Miami and Florida St. would return to their former glory. You could say the same about Pitt, Boston College, and Syracuse. The ACC could be a power house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, rico said: That last sentence doesn't have to be true if Miami and Florida St. would return to their former glory. You could say the same about Pitt, Boston College, and Syracuse. The ACC could be a power house. Certainly. But I don’t get the feeling that ND sees it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, jimsorgi said: Certainly. But I don’t get the feeling that ND sees it like that. No they don't. They just see that NBC money and until that money goes away they will never think of joining a conference for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, rico said: No they don't. They just see that NBC money and until that money goes away they will never think of joining a conference for football. And, putting money aside, no benefits to being in a conference. If the money is equal, they still would not join a conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, jimsorgi said: And, putting money aside, no benefits to being in a conference. If the money is equal, they still would not join a conference. The CFP is why they would join a conference...especially joining the ACC. The ACC plays an 8 game conference schedule(I think) so if ND was in it they would play 4 ooc games. Assuming they would be opposite of Clemson and keeping their "rivalries" with USC, Stanford, Navy, and Michigan intact. Dropping the UGA game. This year the Irish could be playing in the ACC championship game with 1 loss going against Clemson. As it stands now the Irish are eliminated from a CFP appearance. That is my "fuzzy math" though. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, rico said: The CFP is why they would join a conference...especially joining the ACC. The ACC plays an 8 game conference schedule(I think) so if ND was in it they would play 4 ooc games. Assuming they would be opposite of Clemson and keeping their "rivalries" with USC, Stanford, Navy, and Michigan intact. Dropping the UGA game. This year the Irish could be playing in the ACC championship game with 1 loss going against Clemson. As it stands now the Irish are eliminated from a CFP appearance. That is my "fuzzy math" though. LOL NBC $$$ > All that stuff you just mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Zlinedavid said: NBC $$$ > All that stuff you just mentioned Yep, until they keep getting left out of the CFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, rico said: Yep, until they keep getting left out of the CFP. They haven't shown up for big bowl games since before the turn of the century, so what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 10:51 AM, rico said: The CFP is why they would join a conference...especially joining the ACC. The ACC plays an 8 game conference schedule(I think) so if ND was in it they would play 4 ooc games. Assuming they would be opposite of Clemson and keeping their "rivalries" with USC, Stanford, Navy, and Michigan intact. Dropping the UGA game. This year the Irish could be playing in the ACC championship game with 1 loss going against Clemson. As it stands now the Irish are eliminated from a CFP appearance. That is my "fuzzy math" though. LOL If the playoffs don’t change and the committee starts honoring conference championships then ND may start seeing themselves on the outside looking in....that might incentivize them to move. Also ACC May have to make it worth $$$. All it would take is PAC12 and Big12 getting a little stiffer. If committee starts valuing their conference championship like they do SEC and B1G then ND might be stuck on outside looking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Oregon gonna go down and Herbert blowing any chance he had at the Heisman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Oregon gonna go down and Herbert blowing any chance he had at the Heisman I couldn't believe it when I tuned in the game...Good for Herm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 And Oregon is storming back...21-24 over 5 left to go...I love Pac 12 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Dang, this Memphis team can put points on the board in hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just a note. Jim McElwain took over a 1-11 team. After winning yesterday he's 8-4 with Central Michigan and headed to MAC title game. This after winning I think 2 SEC East titles with Florida. Some P5 conference will step up soon. Not sure who but pretty remarkable turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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