The Daily Hoosier Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Indiana enters the mix for this highly coveted 5-star. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/indiana-offers-class-of-2021-five-star-shooting-guard-max-christie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Odd that Illinois has not offered him since 4 other big ten teams has already offered him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: Odd that Illinois has not offered him since 4 other big ten teams has already offered him They have I just didn't include every single one of them because there were a lot. I'll include them though because if they could end up being a big player if the blue bloods don't snatch him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Honestly can't recall a five star out of Rolling Meadows. Pretty high brow suburb of Chicago. Maybe IU will have a chance. And yet another '21 to follow. Thanks TDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 I like his game a lot! Get him on campus Arch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Boy. This kid is pure Hoosier but just happens to live in Illinois. Strong household (Dad is a pilot, Mom played hoops at Northwestern). Articles I read suggested very, very humble kid. Doesn't do the social media stuff. We've never had much success up that way but at least this one is on the up and up. Things can change but his AAU team and coach aren't like the others in the area. Juwan Howard I believe offered him right away. Will be tons of competition for this kid. Edit-Duke is apparently the leader for this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, CoachSS said: If Duke pushes this will be long over with. Lives not far from me. Seen him a few times. Phenomenal prospect. Too good for IU at this time, candidly. I thought the same when I saw the offer, same as I've felt about our pursuit of Terrence Clarke. It's tough to figure. Coming off the 2019 class I thought our reach clearly exceeded our grasp. The staff offered almost exclusively top 50 kids early, trying to inject talent into the program quickly, and mostly came away empty. That was in the summer and the fall, after Romeo committed and before the season began, when expectations were still riding high. The headwinds we face in recruiting have only gotten stronger since. I thought we saw a recalibration in response with the 2020 class, where the staff has been pursuing mostly kids ranked in the 75-200 range. Kids that wouldn't make an immediate impact but could grow old in the program. And kids that were more likely to commit to a program still a few years away from contending. But maybe what I thought was a recalibration was just a result of the limitations of the 2020 class? Our offers out in 2021 are to the top Indiana kids, of course, but then two top ten players in the class. Kaufman is a top 75 kid, the rest top 40. Maybe it's that you only offer the sure things this far out, and maybe we'll have a clearer picture of Archie's plan this time next year. But at the moment we seem to be returning to the high-risk/high-reward strategy of the previous recruiting cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, Maedhros said: I thought the same when I saw the offer, same as I've felt about our pursuit of Terrence Clarke. It's tough to figure. Coming off the 2019 class I thought our reach clearly exceeded our grasp. The staff offered almost exclusively top 50 kids early, trying to inject talent into the program quickly, and mostly came away empty. That was in the summer and the fall, after Romeo committed and before the season began, when expectations were still riding high. The headwinds we face in recruiting have only gotten stronger since. I thought we saw a recalibration in response with the 2020 class, where the staff has been pursuing mostly kids ranked in the 75-200 range. Kids that wouldn't make an immediate impact but could grow old in the program. And kids that were more likely to commit to a program still a few years away from contending. But maybe what I thought was a recalibration was just a result of the limitations of the 2020 class? Our offers out in 2021 are to the top Indiana kids, of course, but then two top ten players in the class. Kaufman is a top 75 kid, the rest top 40. Maybe it's that you only offer the sure things this far out, and maybe we'll have a clearer picture of Archie's plan this time next year. But at the moment we seem to be returning to the high-risk/high-reward strategy of the previous recruiting cycle. I had similar thoughts. The optimistic view would be that Archie realizes we're a little toxic right now and hopes to have the ship righted by this time next year, and thus able to pull top kids. Might also be that he feels good about where we stand with 2020 kids and the development of current guys, so he feels a little freer to swing for the fences in 2021? The pessimistic view would be he just didn't learn his lesson and we're going to strike out in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, CoachSS said: *Delete Ouch... Not what you want to hear about a program in its third year being run by a coach who was supposed to be an upgrade over the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Ouch... Not what you want to hear about a program in its third year being run by a coach who was supposed to be an upgrade over the last one. Not very optimistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 This guy is a stud. I like Purdue’s chances assuming Duke doesn’t offer. If they offer, it’s game over haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: This guy is a stud. I like Purdue’s chances assuming Duke doesn’t offer. If they offer, it’s game over haha. Yeah, all the cool kids go to Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Ouch... Not what you want to hear about a program in its third year being run by a coach who was supposed to be an upgrade over the last one. Color me intrigued. Care to share or is it better just to leave it alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Color me intrigued. Care to share or is it better just to leave it alone? He said something like this recruit is to good for IU right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: Color me intrigued. Care to share or is it better just to leave it alone? Nothing crazy, just CoachSS’s opinion on this recruitment... You can see the deleted post quoted in Maedhros’s post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Nothing crazy, just CoachSS’s opinion on this recruitment... You can see the deleted post quoted in Maedhros’s post above. Makes sense and I don't have a problem agreeing with it. The fact that Archie has been able to get Romeo and TJD has been phenomenal....but I think he really wants to follow the Beilein/Michigan model if he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Rolling Meadows is not too far from where Justin Smith lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, CoachSS said: This has nothing to do with “the program” So what is it then, the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, CoachSS said: Purdue has little to no chance. Save yourself the time. Wasn’t going to lose sleep over it one way or another lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 14 hours ago, milehiiu said: Honestly can't recall a five star out of Rolling Meadows. Pretty high brow suburb of Chicago. Maybe IU will have a chance. And yet another '21 to follow. Thanks TDH. Haha. As an alumni I can say that when I went there we were definitely not referred to as high brow. They called us Rolling Ghettos - while that nickname was a bit of a stretch and used mainly because it rhymed, we were somewhere between the 2. Maybe this kid can become our most famous alumni and inch ahead of Jimmy Garoppolo and Bill Lumbergh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, CoachSS said: It’s a simple recruitment and IU was late to the party. Nothing else needs to be read into or combed over. #Next Well when you said IU is not good enough it sounded like a slight to the program but Duke does get a lot of players from the Chicago area. It is not like IU has not been able to land top recruits since Archie got here with Romeo and TJD plus Hunter who was a top 50 player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, CoachSS said: This has nothing to do with “the program” Saying a recruit is “too good for IU” would seem to have at least something to do with “the program,” but it sounds like that was just poor wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Yep. I have heard the term... Rolling Ghett 1 hour ago, tdhoosier said: Haha. As an alumni I can say that when I went there we were definitely not referred to as high brow. They called us Rolling Ghettos - while that nickname was a bit of a stretch and used mainly because it rhymed, we were somewhere between the 2. Maybe this kid can become our most famous alumni and inch ahead of Jimmy Garoppolo and Bill Lumbergh. Yep, have heard the term Rolling Ghettos as well. Upon reflection, It depends on what part of Rolling Meadows, one lives in. Years ago, we had a member who was from Rolling Meadows. Stifler was his user name. Brady Stiff in real life. A real neat guy, despite where he came from. Went on to become a big wig at WGN in Chicago. Was a horse racing fan. What with the horse track close to Rolling Ghettos. He actually worked summers there, while being a student at IU. He also did stuff at WIUX, which helped him get an apprenticeship at WGN. Really nice for you to report on this td. Brings back good memories for me. I wish you well. ICB Grad Brady Stiff - WGN Producer Before his gig at WGN : Brady Stiff Cubs PA Audition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 There is a sad truth to what CoachSS said. IU is simply not a brand that means as much to today's 17 year old as it did in the 1980's. As fans, we have to accept that is not going to change overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, 5fouls said: There is a sad truth to what CoachSS said. IU is simply not a brand that means as much to today's 17 year old as it did in the 1980's. As fans, we have to accept that is not going to change overnight. I agree but the problem is that a lot of our fan base expectations are still from the 80's so if our coach doesn't produce that right away they call for his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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