Zlinedavid Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Having 6-7 players capable of being in the starting mix is a nice problem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachv Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: I think Rob will eventually start, once he get some practice time under his belt. He's obviously rusty. Right now, I see the starting 5 as Brunk TJD Smith Green Phinisee I think that that'll be the backcourt for 2 main reasons. 1) Archie has said Devonte is at his best "along side someone" and being off the ball. 2) That's our best defensive backcourt tandem (but Al isn't far behind in that area). I also think that looking how last night's minutes were distributed, Archie is honing in on his rotation... Durham Thompson Davis All getting a good slice of playing time Hunter Anderson Franklin Getting less, but, depending on the situation, still getting time. Very fluid as the year goes along. archie did say that about green but he wasn't playing off the ball last night. he was playing point mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: My biggest takeaway was body language. Loved our overall demeanor and I feel confident that we wont have to keep saying good Devonte and bad Devonte. Kid is showing great leadership . From AP article: Green returned from a hamstring injury on Saturday. By Wednesday, he was knocking down shots, making one-handed passes, even hugging teammates after making 5 of 8 from the field while dishing out four assists. "I feel a lot more comfortable," Green said. "I've been out for a while so it feels good to be back and I felt comfortable with the guys." Have to like what we've seen from the chemistry so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, coachv said: archie did say that about green but he wasn't playing off the ball last night. he was playing point mostly That's true, but I think that's more a product of Rob not playing many minutes, and Devonte being a better point guard than Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, IUFLA said: That's true, but I think that's more a product of Rob not playing many minutes, and Devonte being a better point guard than Al. The fact they're both at least competent either on or off ball is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 ^^ Agreed, for sure. However -- just my take here -- people seem to make season-long type conclusions based on our preliminary, weak non-con games when several players are still coming off injuries and illness. Rob is coming off strep throat and earlier injury. Making declarations like he's not going to start at this point is way, way premature. He's our best point guard, hands down. He's been sick and injured, he's clearly not 100% yet. Key word there: "yet" For the thousandth time, Justin is not a "3". There is simply no definition in basketball that makes him a "3" (well, to get ahead of Fouls, besides his jersey number). That is not the spot he is playing, he is playing in a three-forward lineup as a mobile, rolling, opportunistic forward, and is doing really well at it. A real positive. We're developing a team that can play several different looks, the ability to play big, the ability to play rangy, it's going to pay dividends. But you can't ignore that Rob is still working himself back and the lineup would be different if he were in starting shape / health. Add to that that the lineups generally have been more effective when we have an actual "wing" on the floor, with the ability to spread the floor and be quicker. Brunk is really solid. But we haven't seen that lineup against a B1G level group with its own big forwards. Hunter is going to need more time to get his game speed, conditioning, and timing going. But he's one of our best offensive weapons. Seriously doubt he's a limited minutes guy. Still early to make season-long assessments. We've had a grand total 5 games, against weak opponents, with guys coming back from injury and illness. Al continues to get underappreciated. It's getting kind of mind boggling to me. He's a key piece to this team including going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: The fact they're both at least competent either on or off ball is a good thing. Absolutely. This is one of the more flexible rosters IU has had in some time. Archie is figuring out the combinations he likes on the floor. Also creates better competition in practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Indiana vs. Princeton -- The Report Card https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-indiana-vs-princeton-the-report-card/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Well what will we have to talk about on here because there is not a game for 5 days and there will be no recruiting news for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Having 6-7 players capable of being in the starting mix is a nice problem to have. Particularly if you don’t SUCK as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well what will we have to talk about on here because there is not a game for 5 days and there will be no recruiting news for awhile. There's a relatively decent football game about two days from now.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Zlinedavid said: There's a relatively decent football game about two days from now.......... I know just talking about the basketball board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: ^^ Agreed, for sure. However -- just my take here -- people seem to make season-long type conclusions based on our preliminary, weak non-con games when several players are still coming off injuries and illness. Rob is coming off strep throat and earlier injury. Making declarations like he's not going to start at this point is way, way premature. He's our best point guard, hands down. He's been sick and injured, he's clearly not 100% yet. Key word there: "yet" For the thousandth time, Justin is not a "3". There is simply no definition in basketball that makes him a "3" (well, to get ahead of Fouls, besides his jersey number). That is not the spot he is playing, he is playing in a three-forward lineup as a mobile, rolling, opportunistic forward, and is doing really well at it. A real positive. We're developing a team that can play several different looks, the ability to play big, the ability to play rangy, it's going to pay dividends. But you can't ignore that Rob is still working himself back and the lineup would be different if he were in starting shape / health. Add to that that the lineups generally have been more effective when we have an actual "wing" on the floor, with the ability to spread the floor and be quicker. Brunk is really solid. But we haven't seen that lineup against a B1G level group with its own big forwards. Hunter is going to need more time to get his game speed, conditioning, and timing going. But he's one of our best offensive weapons. Seriously doubt he's a limited minutes guy. Still early to make season-long assessments. We've had a grand total 5 games, against weak opponents, with guys coming back from injury and illness. Al continues to get underappreciated. It's getting kind of mind boggling to me. He's a key piece to this team including going forward. Which is why I qualified my assessment with "very fluid as the year goes along." I'm just going on what I see on the floor, and what I hear in Archie's post game presser. As for Al, I don't think I've underappreciated him at all. He's just not, as good a point guard as Rob, nor as good a shooting guard as Devonte. At least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well what will we have to talk about on here because there is not a game for 5 days and there will be no recruiting news for awhile. Football and Soccer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Football and Soccer?? I meant just on the basketball board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 I was wondering when was the last time we had everybody healthy and dressed for a game. I know we never had that last year and have not had that for a game yet this year. Hopefully Monday we will have every player dressed and ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: I meant just on the basketball board Like positionless basketball, I practice topicless posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Like positionless basketball, I practice topicless posting. Well what is sad is that there has been way more traffic this week on the basketball recruiting board than the football board. We have a huge football game at home this week but we were more worried about a recruit who did not choose IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well what is sad is that there has been way more traffic this week on the basketball recruiting board than the football board. We have a huge football game at home this week but we were more worried about a recruit who did not choose IU. 50 years of "been there, seen that" is hard to overcome. A win over UM would be great, but underdog status aside, we will be fighting the striped shirts IMO (BT seems to always give a little "advantage" to their ranked, pet teams against the likes of us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: 50 years of "been there, seen that" is hard to overcome. A win over UM would be great, but underdog status aside, we will be fighting the striped shirts IMO (BT seems to always give a little "advantage" to their ranked, pet teams against the likes of us). Yes have seen that plenty over my 40+ years of watching IU football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: ^^ Rob is still getting healthy, he will not be coming off the bench. He's the starting point, it's just a matter of time and recuperation. Who is not in the starting lineup when he is healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I know just talking about the basketball board I haven't looked, but has there been any update on either Rob or De'Ron? I guess we probably won't hear anything, so that makes my question rather stupid. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Zlinedavid said: Like positionless basketball, I practice topicless posting. Better than topless posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: I haven't looked, but has there been any update on either Rob or De'Ron? I guess we probably won't hear anything, so that makes my question rather stupid. Nevermind. It looked like they took Rob to the locker room for a quick concussion evaluation. It looked to my untrained eye like he was acting fine on the bench and came back from the locker room pretty quickly - so I'm hoping he's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Which is why I qualified my assessment with "very fluid as the year goes along." I'm just going on what I see on the floor, and what I hear in Archie's post game presser. As for Al, I don't think I've underappreciated him at all. He's just not, as good a point guard as Rob, nor as good a shooting guard as Devonte. At least in my opinion. My rant is just rant, was pointing to you or really to anyone in particular. Definitely agree with the fluid comment -- it has to be fluid, we keep having key players injured or sick. One day, everyone will be healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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