Zlinedavid Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Bob said: What I can’t understand is, how these team keep losing while we are winning and they keep voting them ahead of us. Ohio St has lost what 6 out of 7 game in the big Ten and still ranked above in top 25. How can a team in second to last place still be in the top 25. They won't be on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Virginia had more votes than us in the last poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, rico said: Virginia had more votes than us in the last poll. Patently ridiculous. Just shows how much previous season bias is still hanging over the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Patently ridiculous. Just shows how much previous season bias is still hanging over the polls. That it does. It is like voters don't want to be proven wrong or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, rico said: That it does. It is like voters don't want to be proven wrong or something. Another answer might be found here Very heavy east coast bias. The state of Indiana only has 1 voter (Jeff Rabjohns). And I may be off base here, but I always thought IU got the short end of the voting stick because we once employed Bob Knight, who, as we all know, disliked any media person not named Hammel. There are still a few voting that remember the comparison to prostitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 After the game last night on Assembly Call they were going through the KenPom rankings and it still had IU at #37 and Maryland at #11. I don't know what all goes into this ranking but that is ridiculous because we have the same record overall and in the conference and I doubt their OOC schedule was that much harder than ours. Also said that our defensive ranking is up to #30 and our offensive ranking is #59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: After the game last night on Assembly Call they were going through the KenPom rankings and it still had IU at #37 and Maryland at #11. I don't know what all goes into this ranking but that is ridiculous because we have the same record overall and in the conference and I doubt their OOC schedule was that much harder than ours. Also said that our defensive ranking is up to #30 and our offensive ranking is #59 Wins and Losses mean nothing in KenPom. It's all about efficiency. Also note that KenPom is not used by the selection committee. For example, Texas was KenPom #25 last year and ended up being a 2 Seed.....in the NIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, JugRox said: Wins and Losses mean nothing in KenPom. It's all about efficiency. It's not used by the selection committee. For example, Texas was KenPom #25 last year and ended up being a 2 Seed.....in the NIT. That makes absolutely no sense to me at all because you play to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: That makes absolutely no sense to me at all because you play to win the game. And now you know why some people don't like some of these analytics. KenPom is something for the fans to reference....but in reality, it has some flaws just like any other system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, JugRox said: And now you know why some people don't like some of these analytics. KenPom is something for the fans to reference....but in reality, it has some flaws just like any other system. If you have been here long enough you would know that I hate analytics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: That makes absolutely no sense to me at all because you play to win the game. Go get em, Herm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If you have been here long enough you would know that I hate analytics And stat geeks everywhere are shaking their collective heads. But you are right. In the end it is about wins and losses. No "Pythagorean Theorem" is gonna change a team's record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: That makes absolutely no sense to me at all because you play to win the game. Your gas gauge doesn't measure how fast you're driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Your gas gauge doesn't measure how fast you're driving. It does if it's on 'E'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: It does if it's on 'E'. Not necessarily. My gas gauge was pegged on 'E' on my way to the gas station this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Not necessarily. My gas gauge was pegged on 'E' on my way to the gas station this morning. How much was your speeding ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, 5fouls said: It does if it's on 'E'. Thanks for reminding me, I need to stop and get gas on my way home from work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: How much was your speeding ticket? $0. Gas station is just barely out of sight from my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: Not necessarily. My gas gauge was pegged on 'E' on my way to the gas station this morning. Everyone knows the needle has to get below E before you will run out of gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Reacher said: Everyone knows the needle has to get below E before you will run out of gas. Who pays attention to the needle? When the touch screen tells me LOW FUEL, I know i have 60 miles to go! Don't ask me how I know.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 Since this is already derailed, I once took an exit ramp with my range readout showing zero miles before empty. I think when we looked it up, I put in the entire tank capacity. Man, was my wife pissed. The newer range readouts take all the fun out of it by converting to "LOW" well before zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:50 PM, FKIM01 said: Since this is already derailed, I once took an exit ramp with my range readout showing zero miles before empty. I think when we looked it up, I put in the entire tank capacity. Man, was my wife pissed. The newer range readouts take all the fun out of it by converting to "LOW" well before zero. On my car, it flips to “low” at 30 miles to go. I can do the math from the odometer from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 as much as i think we'll deserve top 25 if we win today, i'm not so sure it will happen. technically we were 41 with the votes in the AP coming in. i believe only 3 teams have losses between 19-25. then between 26-40 how many have lost? i know it's not an exact science, but if by going by that we'd only move up say, 7 spots to 34, would they really have us hop those other 9 teams? i hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: as much as i think we'll deserve top 25 if we win today, i'm not so sure it will happen. technically we were 41 with the votes in the AP coming in. i believe only 3 teams have losses between 19-25. then between 26-40 how many have lost? i know it's not an exact science, but if by going by that we'd only move up say, 7 spots to 34, would they really have us hop those other 9 teams? i hope so. True, but I believe the voters will have a day of reckoning if we beat Maryland. I see no way they can keep us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Keep winning and that takes care of everything! There has always been questions about how and who gets ranked! It just seems crazy confusing this year. The only ranking that counts is the one at the end of the year. Go Hoosiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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