bobtcat2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 This conference schedule is killer. I think 8-12 is a pretty decent record. Would it be enough for an NCAA bid? Probably not. 8 wins or more and I'm satisfied, fewer than 8 I'd be really concerned. Before anybody jumps down my throat, take a look at the schedule. I know pointless to complain about it since the unbalanced schedule is going to benefit you sometimes and hurt you sometimes. On the plus side it's a lot more opportunities for good wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, bobtcat2 said: This conference schedule is killer. I think 8-12 is a pretty decent record. Would it be enough for an NCAA bid? Probably not. 8 wins or more and I'm satisfied, fewer than 8 I'd be really concerned. Before anybody jumps down my throat, take a look at the schedule. I know pointless to complain about it since the unbalanced schedule is going to benefit you sometimes and hurt you sometimes. On the plus side it's a lot more opportunities for good wins. I got us at 11-9 going game by game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Here's the schedule https://iuhoosiers.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2019-20 I got us at 11-9 as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I see 11-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I could live with 11-9. 8 and 12 and I am not happy at all. I think 11 and 9 gets us to around 22 wins if we take care of business the next you few games. That is a tournament appearance, which was my goal for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I expect us to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 12-8 and we make it to the big dance. We must get all the winnable games, especially home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm seeing 19-1 with the average score being something like 103-42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 10-10. If we beat ND/ARK and go 10-10 we will get in the tourney. That would be a good step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I got us at 13-7. Thing I like about this conference schedule is when and who we play. There aren't stretches where we could lose 4 of 5 with the exception of Feb 16 to March 1st and even during that time I see 2-3. Get Rob healthy. Other players figuring out where and how they will contribute. Wins like last night actually have me more confident over the course of a season not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Watching Wisconsin at Rutgers. Announcers pointed out that so far the home team has won in every Big10 conference game. As usual...road wins are tough to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrojan88 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I hope I’m wrong but with last night’s performance fresh on my mind, I see 6-14. If Rob stays healthy, that could jump to 8-12 or 9-11. Bubble team and eventual NIT bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 If we dont go at least 10-10 it would be a disappointment. So we probably go 9-11 because IU basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I love how we fans twist every result to fit our narrative. We look bad against Wisky, no doubt. We look bad, but win against UCONN. However, for some reason, every other non-IU result is seems to be bad for IU as well. For example, Maryland loses to Penn State. Well, by gosh Maryland is GOOD even though they lost, so now not only can we not beat Maryland, we can't beat Penn State either. We seem to be incapable of interpreting that result as Maryland is beatable. Same thing with Illinois and Michigan. Since Michigan is good, and Illinois beat them, I guess we can't win against those teams either. All 10 Big Ten home teams have won. That seems to mean, we can't win on the road, so why do we assume teams can come into Assembly Hall and win? And, yes, people are assuming that or we would not have 6, 7, & 8 win conference projections in this thread. We beat UCONN and Florida State, but have a bad game at Wisconsin. Meanwhile, Duke loses at home to SFA, and UK loses to Evansville, but no one questions those teams ability to right the ship. But, people have us on the Titantic. Cheer up folks. it's the Holidays. Make that New Year's resolution to be positive. It does not cost anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: However, for some reason, every other non-IU result is seems to be bad for IU as well. Of course. How else can we fuel discussion about firing Archie/Fred/McRobbie/the entire state legislature and hiring Marshall/Beard/Phil Jackson/Pat Riley/the remains of James Naismith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I love how we fans twist every result to fit our narrative. We look bad against Wisky, no doubt. We look bad, but win against UCONN. However, for some reason, every other non-IU result is seems to be bad for IU as well. For example, Maryland loses to Penn State. Well, by gosh Maryland is GOOD even though they lost, so now not only can we not beat Maryland, we can't beat Penn State either. We seem to be incapable of interpreting that result as Maryland is beatable. Same thing with Illinois and Michigan. Since Michigan is good, and Illinois beat them, I guess we can't win against those teams either. All 10 Big Ten home teams have won. That seems to mean, we can't win on the road, so why do we assume teams can come into Assembly Hall and win? And, yes, people are assuming that or we would not have 6, 7, & 8 win conference projections in this thread. We beat UCONN and Florida State, but have a bad game at Wisconsin. Meanwhile, Duke loses at home to SFA, and UK loses to Evansville, but no one questions those teams ability to right the ship. But, people have us on the Titantic. Cheer up folks. it's the Holidays. Make that New Year's resolution to be positive. It does not cost anything! Duke and UK have been elite for a long time. We haven't and that's the difference. If Archie had a title and a bunch of FFs on his resume the loss would be no big deal. That said, every team seems to have 1-2 of those WTF games each season. If that's all it was at Wisconsin it's no big deal. If it ends up being a trend we have a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I love how we fans twist every result to fit our narrative. We look bad against Wisky, no doubt. We look bad, but win against UCONN. However, for some reason, every other non-IU result is seems to be bad for IU as well. For example, Maryland loses to Penn State. Well, by gosh Maryland is GOOD even though they lost, so now not only can we not beat Maryland, we can't beat Penn State either. We seem to be incapable of interpreting that result as Maryland is beatable. Same thing with Illinois and Michigan. Since Michigan is good, and Illinois beat them, I guess we can't win against those teams either. All 10 Big Ten home teams have won. That seems to mean, we can't win on the road, so why do we assume teams can come into Assembly Hall and win? And, yes, people are assuming that or we would not have 6, 7, & 8 win conference projections in this thread. We beat UCONN and Florida State, but have a bad game at Wisconsin. Meanwhile, Duke loses at home to SFA, and UK loses to Evansville, but no one questions those teams ability to right the ship. But, people have us on the Titantic. Cheer up folks. it's the Holidays. Make that New Year's resolution to be positive. It does not cost anything! Or after the game Tuesday, Archie is a coach with a terrible offense, a ‘decent’ defense, with bad substitution patterns, that turns it over too much, but UConn is a well coached team that plays hard and Hurley has them headed in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I love how we fans twist every result to fit our narrative. We look bad against Wisky, no doubt. We look bad, but win against UCONN. However, for some reason, every other non-IU result is seems to be bad for IU as well. For example, Maryland loses to Penn State. Well, by gosh Maryland is GOOD even though they lost, so now not only can we not beat Maryland, we can't beat Penn State either. We seem to be incapable of interpreting that result as Maryland is beatable. Same thing with Illinois and Michigan. Since Michigan is good, and Illinois beat them, I guess we can't win against those teams either. All 10 Big Ten home teams have won. That seems to mean, we can't win on the road, so why do we assume teams can come into Assembly Hall and win? And, yes, people are assuming that or we would not have 6, 7, & 8 win conference projections in this thread. We beat UCONN and Florida State, but have a bad game at Wisconsin. Meanwhile, Duke loses at home to SFA, and UK loses to Evansville, but no one questions those teams ability to right the ship. But, people have us on the Titantic. Cheer up folks. it's the Holidays. Make that New Year's resolution to be positive. It does not cost anything! I expect the tournament this year. Period. I think there have been things to be concerned about since our schedule strength has started to increase but that does not necessarily equate to the sky is falling. I did not like some of the coaching moves against UConn, I thought we looked God awful against Wisconsin. I think that some of that could be fixable. Honestly, my biggest worries are things that have carried over from year one. Our recovery in the packline is too slow and we give up way too many poorly contested or completely uncontested 3 point looks. That is what happened early against both Wisconsin and Connecticut. The packline can be super effective if the other team is average shooting, but when another team is hot, you end up being the #1 seed getting upset by a 16 seed for the first time because there is no adjustment to be made other than switching defenses at that point. My second worry is that we have nobody that can be counted on to consistently score 10+ and we have no one we can count on as an outside shooter. Our offense has poor spacing too often and we get caught having to throw up junk baskets late in the shot clock because we can't run what we want to do. I just think people are concerned because we were winning games last year at this time with the same types of issues and the wheels fell off. Teams like Duke and UK have earned a little bit of understanding, Miller's IU has not. I have not seen anything from the program yet that screams "this is THE guy". I think we have "A" guy who should be able to get us to the tournament most years and maybe that is all this program will ever be. The problem is that is not how this program is marketed. Tournament and above .500 in conference should be minimum expectations in year 3. We are 9-1, I am willing to sit back and see how it goes, but let's not pretend that there are not concerning things about this program right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 13-7 or there about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, dbmhoosier said: Duke and UK have been elite for a long time. We haven't and that's the difference. If Archie had a title and a bunch of FFs on his resume the loss would be no big deal. That said, every team seems to have 1-2 of those WTF games each season. If that's all it was at Wisconsin it's no big deal. If it ends up being a trend we have a major problem. You're glossing over the Penn State and Illinois wins. That's really the point, isn't it? You think Illinois is a really strong team? Think Penn State has a bunch of FFs? B1G road is going to be hard, really, as usual. And imo there's more balance than usual in this B1G from top to bottom. Is MSU unbeatable? OSU to me so far looks like the best B1G team. MSU, UM, etc. are beatable. We've shown strong play at home, we eeked out a difficult neutral site game, and of course we're still not at full strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Realistically, something like 10-10 or 11-9. The Big Ten looks brutal. If we take of business against ND and Arkansas, I'd expect us to be a NCAA tourney team at 21-10 (10-10 B1G). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I think every team will finish in a 14 team tie at 10-10 with every home team winning every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think every team will finish in a 14 team tie at 10-10 with every home team winning every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think every team will finish in a 14 team tie at 10-10 with every home team winning every game. This is the funniest thing Scott has ever said on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I think every team will finish in a 14 team tie at 10-10 with every home team winning every game. Who wins the tie breaker in that scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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