5fouls Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Not sure if someone already linked this in one of the other threads, but thought it could stand on its own. https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-at-indiana-the-question-has-shifted-from-ncaa-tournament-to-archie-millers-future/article_f1605718-7789-11eb-b312-7b394b42baa9.html?fbclid=IwAR0Du765WL6VKvW-CcGORq4JNMbSGyDHDdRAfSo43myKotNBT-xgXetVwWs This is the part of the story that really caught my eye. And, after the 11-point loss to Rutgers Wednesday, Miller sounded like a coach who has lost his locker room. He admitted his team was “fractured.” He used a lot of words that certainly sounded like a coach concerned his players had quit in the second half. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Interesting find on twitter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Inequality said: Interesting find on twitter I noticed his attitude in the huddle but missed his storming off and nudging chair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Not sure if someone already linked this in one of the other threads, but thought it could stand on its own. https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-at-indiana-the-question-has-shifted-from-ncaa-tournament-to-archie-millers-future/article_f1605718-7789-11eb-b312-7b394b42baa9.html?fbclid=IwAR0Du765WL6VKvW-CcGORq4JNMbSGyDHDdRAfSo43myKotNBT-xgXetVwWs This is the part of the story that really caught my eye. And, after the 11-point loss to Rutgers Wednesday, Miller sounded like a coach who has lost his locker room. He admitted his team was “fractured.” He used a lot of words that certainly sounded like a coach concerned his players had quit in the second half. I posted it somewhere but there are s many threads I lose track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Inequality said: Interesting find on twitter Makes you think we know why he was suspended and it was probably for his attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I posted it somewhere but there are s many threads I lose track Sorry I duplicated it. But, some of these threads grow so much when I'm not on the board, there is no way I can read all the posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, 5fouls said: Sorry I duplicated it. But, some of these threads grow so much when I'm not on the board, there is no way I can read all the posts. I don't see a problem with this post because it is hard to read all of the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 This was good to see on its own IMO, I missed it otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I wonder if we are going to have some transfers at the end of the year. Something off with this team as well as those in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) I'm not a coach. But, during a game, if I think my team has quit on me, I'm going to be looking down that bench for players that haven't. Heck, even if that means I'm only playing with 4. That might get their attention. Edited February 26, 2021 by 5fouls 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I seriously question Archie's leadership. In his 4 seasons at IU, his teams never had good chemistry or floor leadership. I thought this year's team would finally be the first one. Maybe players get along pretty well, but the problem lies in the relationship with Archie. We won't know for sure, but what I saw in this short footage was an embarrassment. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 This is a really bad look. If Archie comes back, he will not be renewed before the season. That's just a really bad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfan93 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 This article is not wrong and although I get that buyout is huge it’s time for a change. Dolson needs to act swiftly. Archie is not a B1G coach. The experiment is over. He checked all the boxes coming in but has been a bust. The fan base is apathetic. The sleeping giant that was IU is about to hibernate for good. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Thanks for the link. I had not seen the story. I liked the mention of "apathy" in the article. I think we are all used to losing with this regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, rico said: Thanks for the link. I had not seen the story. I liked the mention of "apathy" in the article. I think we are all used to losing with this regime. Sad but true. We know the outcome before the game starts. I had the exact same feelings at the end of the Crean era. I never in a million years thought I would experience it again in my lifetime. I am sick of losing and sick of the excuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jefftheref said: Sad but true. We know the outcome before the game starts. I had the exact same feelings at the end of the Crean era. I never in a million years thought I would experience it again in my lifetime. I am sick of losing and sick of the excuses. Things haven't been right in my "fandom" for quite some time. Apathy has set in. Edited February 26, 2021 by rico 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 IU cares more about the social BS that is happening everywhere...they DONT want IU to be good and IU will never be good again...its like sayin Juliard will be dominant in sports cause they have good dancers...IU just are not physical MEN who want to play physical...they are soft boys... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, addictedtoIU said: I seriously question Archie's leadership. In his 4 seasons at IU, his teams never had good chemistry or floor leadership. I thought this year's team would finally be the first one. Maybe players get along pretty well, but the problem lies in the relationship with Archie. We won't know for sure, but what I saw in this short footage was an embarrassment. People ask him to show accountability, he does, and now it's an "embarrassment"? If you have a team and there's never been a conflict, you really don't have a team...You have individuals working along side each other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 hours ago, 5fouls said: I'm not a coach. But, during a game, if I think my team has quit on me, I'm going to be looking down that bench for players that haven't. Heck, even if that means I'm only playing with 4. That might get their attention. On the basketball side of things I am a big Izzo fan, the whining and other issues I can do without but he knows how to handle his team. Everyone was on him about him blowing up on Henry. Henry said it was deserved and best thing for him. Before game with IU tells team emphatically that they are playing for their spot on the team. He is not afraid to shake things up. CAM rolls the same 5 out every night same sub pattern. My father in law hates IU but watches every game and hates it for me that they suck but he questioned me all day yesterday about why he subs everything we get on a roll. He reminds me after every game that CAM is far worse that Crean. He also said something that I had not thought of. Over the course of the year there have been several runs we are on that get stopped because CAM subs in. He said it's just like the opposing coach calling TO to stop momentum but it's self inflicted. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 One other thing about this...It looked to me like the rift was with AL...At the end you see them, along with Race, hashing it out... BTW, Did you see who left the bench and went and got him? Parker Stewart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: On the basketball side of things I am a big Izzo fan, the whining and other issues I can do without but he knows how to handle his team. Everyone was on him about him blowing up on Henry. Henry said it was deserved and best thing for him. Before game with IU tells team emphatically that they are playing for their spot on the team. He is not afraid to shake things up. CAM rolls the same 5 out every night same sub pattern. My father in law hates IU but watches every game and hates it for me that they suck but he questioned me all day yesterday about why he subs everything we get on a roll. He reminds me after every game that CAM is far worse that Crean. He also said something that I had not thought of. Over the course of the year there have been several runs we are on that get stopped because CAM subs in. He said it's just like the opposing coach calling TO to stop momentum but it's self inflicted. Your father in law is spot on with the substitutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said: Your father in law is spot on with the substitutions. Scott has been saying it all year. I just watched enough to notice. I hate saying that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Its unbelievable how predictable his teams have been. Its almost like watching reruns of the same episode of a tv show over and over and over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 It always bothered me that we have to buy out a coach like Archie who has done nothing he said he would do to help build this program. Yet we get stuck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, addictedtoIU said: I seriously question Archie's leadership. In his 4 seasons at IU, his teams never had good chemistry or floor leadership. I thought this year's team would finally be the first one. Maybe players get along pretty well, but the problem lies in the relationship with Archie. We won't know for sure, but what I saw in this short footage was an embarrassment. That is another legit concern. When YOU recruit the players you’re not just assembling talent you’re finding “fits” physically, emotionally, chemistry wise etc. Now I get it, people change and all that. But I agree with you that we can’t say we’ve had good chemistry yet. Even Crean could build chemistry at times. We have poorly built teams in more ways than one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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