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6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

He could, and then you have a federal crime. 

Yeah that would be opening a whole can of worms that I don't imagine these guys paying for the NIL would want to deal with.

8 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I just know that for the most part that most media around Indy don't want the Pacers to draft him either.

To be honest I haven't really kept up on who they think the Pacers should get, so who is it saying they shouldn't draft him? I am kind of curious to see those articles that say they shouldn't, can you link them?

3 minutes ago, dgambill said:

All good my friend…it was totally tongue in cheek…but man you are sure wound up tight. No hard feelings I hope.👍

Man another insult, I'm not wound up tight at all. But you keep being you ok.

4 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Dennis just posted on twitter that he’s about to announce a top 5…..

I missed it, what schools are his Top 5? 

Just now, dgambill said:

Wow…ok..that’s a first..never been called that..would have thought it might hurt from a fellow IU fan..but actually just made me chuckle. Sorry if I offended you…but I get no joy ruin peoples mood by saying we aren’t going to be the biggest benefits in this NIL game being played. It isn’t going to even the playing field for us as far as the Kansas and UKs etc who were already paying guys…it just isn’t. We might win out over Purdue…but heck Purdue has beaten our ass with “lesser” players for years…they will do just fine not getting the top dogs. Probably never win a NC sure…but this isn’t our winning lottery ticket back to the final four either…it might help in finalizing a few kids but we aren’t going to land full lineups of 5* kids with this stuff. The stuff that happens at Miami and Texas A&M etc ain’t going to happen at IU.

Well when you come out swinging like an ass on a post you are going to get it back.

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I think the farther along you will see more longtime college fans stop caring about it.  It is how I have become about the NBA over the years.  I went from loving the NBA to not even watching the playoffs any longer 

Yeah I think you are right, I don't watch the NBA that much anymore either.

But admit it Scott if the Pacers somehow get Chet you are going to watch every game lol. 😁 🤣

3 minutes ago, dgambill said:

He will cross that bridge (that is out of order) when he gets there…he is just too short sighted to see it’s just a little further up the road because he is riding in one of those self driving cars and thinks everything is on cruise control and he will get to the top of the mountain with his fancy car…well IUs car ain’t making it to the top any more than PUs even if it has a few more cool features. Just the dudes/universities flying choppers will make it…hate to break it to people but IU ain’t flying their recruits in choppers any time soon.

Ok i never considered you a douche bag but this post changes my mind.

4 minutes ago, dgambill said:

My point still stands…it isn’t good for college sports…at least not the way it’s being handled in this current form….and no reason to believe IU will benefit from this either…even with our more progressive stance on NIL doesn’t mean we are going to be able to compete any better with those throwing out crazy money to these kids.

 And my point still stands, it isn't going anywhere so either quit whining or quit watching. The NCAA is done as we know it, you either accept or move on to something else.

Just now, Stlboiler23 said:

There’s a difference accepting NIL is the future and seeing a guy blatantly get bought for $800k which isn’t what NIL is meant to be. Two very different things. I’m sure if it was IU instead of Purdue in that situation and you saw that tweet from the Miami guy you’d be singing a bit of a different tune. 

Actually I wouldn't at all, that is going to happen a lot. Is there a limit on how much money they can get since you say 800k isn't what NIL was meant to be? Purdue needs to get their arrogant heads out of their ass and join the party. I don't necessarily like the direction the NIL is going but it is here to stay and teams better step up to the plate or get left behind.

Just now, dgambill said:

If you think what is happening in college sports is a good thing just because Purdue missed out on a good player than you are incredibly short sighted. It’s Purdue today but very likely IU tomorrow. Honestly it’s the end of amateurism and it will simply be like professional sports. Long gone will be the “student athlete”…it will just be hired guns…and while the Yankees and Dodgers don’t always win they will always have the money to take the best players and be in the best position to win. While we may not be the equivalent of the Oakland As playing money ball we still aren’t going to be the Bostons/Yankees of the world…there is no certainty this is going to be a good thing for IU and definitely not for college sports overall as far as parity goes.

Man whatever, it is how the sport is now and I have no control over it. Either accept it or move on.

6 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

You hit the nail on the head. I could see Painter being like F this and retire earlier than he would’ve planned. If you take NIL out of the equation, Pack would be at Purdue with no questions asked IMO. 

There is no reason for him to say F this and retire early. Purdue needs to get off their high horse and accept that NIL is the future of college sports and that if you want to retain players or bring high level recruits in NIL is going to have to be involved in some way.

1 minute ago, slojoe said:

Think you need a shave, too!

I must have lost my razor

2 minutes ago, rico said:

Did I miss something?

6 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Pack has committed to Miami

 I'm late to the party. Bonfire and beer with family that I haven't seen in a while, but this news has me laughing my ass off and doing a little dance. I am 6ft 5in and around 210 pounds so you guys would be laughing your asses off watching me dance. It is going to be nice to see them on the bubble this season and the Hoosiers around a three or four seed.

7 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

The money will be there if we decide to go all in. 

There is nothing really to decide, you either get with the NIL or fall way behind. If Purdue and other schools don't then shame on them for failing their team and fans.

 Penny adds the #1 transfer Kendric Davis. I will give him credit, he can definitely convince players to go there. One of these days you would have to think his average coaching abilities would catch up to him though.

Just now, Stlboiler23 said:

I think they will. Too much at stake not too IMO. Our AD can be notoriously slow to implement things so this unfortunately didn’t come as a shock that we didn’t have our shit together already. Pack is gone we already have another guard visiting today I believe. 

 Luckily the few Purdue fans I know are not close friends because if they were I would have to hope for their sanity that the Boilermakers do get it together. Since they are not I can keep hoping they fail on the NIL front lol. 😁

Just now, Stlboiler23 said:

If losing him is the wake-up call our AD needs to get their crap together, that’s fine with me. 

The question is though, will they get their crap together. It seems like they should have gotten it together already because it's not like NIL just started today. That being said they still might get Pack, nobody knows for sure.

Just now, 5fouls said:

The reality is that, if someone does leave because of Trayce returning and adding Dennis or McNeil, it will likely be someone that is wanting/needing/expecting major minutes.  The guys who are 11-13 in the rotation are not losing playing time if someone else joins.  It makes no sense to go to Player #13 and say 'You're going to lose playing time' when there was little to no playing time to begin with.  

 Yeah that is actually a good point, he is going to want playing time and not 10 or 12 minutes a game. So whatever minutes he gets will be taken from someone that is expecting them and I would assume that isn't Leal and Logan. So IF he does join the Hoosiers who would most likely leave? The players minutes he would be cutting into would have to be one of Kopp, Bates, Geronimo or Galloway. I wouldn't trade him for either of the three young guys and I would be surprised if Miller left at this point. I guess we will see how it all plays out. Maybe NIL will come into play with this.

1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said:

i'm feeling strangely optimistic.  hard to see why we aren't solid top 15-20 talent wise.  top 3 talent wise in the B1G.  seems very easy to see Bates making a big jump.  seems very realistic that JHS and Reneau are ready immediately.  a lot of experience returning.  potentially 3 starters who were very highly ranked coming out of college.  the other two have been in college forever and are solid returning starters.  please let this be the year that we are top 25 all season long, top 1/3 in the conference.  solid NCAA seed.

I think if Trayce returns as expected we are easily Top 20 and probably Top 15. And like you I see Bates making a big jump and I have high expectations for improvements from Trey and Jordan. Also the one guy who doesn't get talked about as much, other then his Nascar driving abilities is Xavier who in my opinion is possibly the best PG in the B1G and who I look to have a big season.

 There are a couple of things that can make the Hoosiers a Top 10 team also. One is improvement from the team beyond the arc, I think if they improve there they can make a strong run in March, and to be honest that is all I care about at this point when it comes to team success. Another thing is if Hood-Schifino and Reneau comes in as advertised and have an impact. If Jalen is starting then that means he is the real deal and that puts the Hoosiers on another level.

 This might be the most excited I've been for the start of a Hoosier season in a while. 👍

Just now, Between2Halls said:

This may be a repeat. Is May 1 the deadline for entering your name in the portal?

 Yeah I think it is.

10 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Honestly, I disagree.  I doubt he'll move the needle much, but that's just a guess.  If he comes to IU, I hope I'm wrong.  Stats don't say it all, but they say a lot.  He appears to be a fine player but I don't see anything earth-shattering here.  He wouldn't even be the second best guard, IMO.  If he comes, he comes, but I see no reason over-signing or even filling the last scholarship with this level of player.  He's stepping up in competition.  If he maintains the numbers he has, I'll consider that progress.

If he comes to IU, I'll be 100% behind him and gladly admit it if he greatly exceeds my modest expectations.  Meanwhile, I'll trust the staff, while maintaining they're not infallible.  If they get no one and Trayce leaves, I think IU will be alright with the 12 they have left, so I see the program in position to turn down decent but not great players.

This where I am at, good post.👍

25 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

The 3 point line was moved back after his freshman year to the international distance 

Yeah and when they did that his shooting fell off a good chunk, 33.6 twice and 29.7.. Nothing about his shooting has improved and in fact has gotten worse, so I think people expecting an improvement there will be disappointed.

30 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

agree with the discussion part, but blindly talking about somebody like an expert without truly being familiar with him is overconfidence.  Numbers are nice but they only tell you so much.  The staff has put resources into figuring out team needs, scouting a guy, looking at the numbers, literally talking to him and meeting him, and making a judgement.  Fans look at a one minute youtube clip, look at his numbers, and don't have much more to go on.  It's hubris to pretend that anyone has enough info.  It's different if a fan has seen the player play a ton.  The discourse here suggests that people have seen the guy play a lot to be so informed, with such level of confidence.  I hope that makes sense.  I am not saying discussion is not fun.  

This post could be used towards the people that are blindly supporting bringing him in. There is no difference on either side.  Also numbers sometimes do tell the story, he isn't a good 3 point shooter and that is the main reason I and many others don't think that he is what the Hoosiers need the most.

If he joins the Hoosiers I will fully support him, but I just don't think he improves the team that much.

Also one other thing to consider with him, if the reports of Trayce staying are true who are we kicking off the team. The only two that might be worth replacing him with is Leal which would be a shame because he is fully a Hoosier. And Logan who we have no clue what he will be so I would hate to give up on him for Dennis.

7 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Not as good, of course, but I take your point in terms of a long, skinnier guy, who has skill.  

I remember when people, including in Indy, dismissed the young Rik Smits as useless.  7'4, skinny, Pacers don't know what they are doing, etc.  

The kid is one year out of high school and has an uncommon skill set.  Way too early to write him off.  He is no guarantee but he can be a nice player on a good team.  Giannis is not walking through the door with any of these picks this year.  Lot of players who are "just guys."

Man I would be extremely happy getting Chet, like you said he has a skill set that you don't see often in big men. 👍