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1 hour ago, Seeking6 said:

Coach Woodson speaking at New York Coaches Clinic in September....clinic is at Fland's High School. 

He’s also visiting Fland next month. 

4 hours ago, Between2Halls said:

Hate to hear that about Newell the most. I could see Rutgers ending up with Bailey, Harper, and Newell. 

I’d bet Newell won’t be a knight. No way he ends up at Rutgers. 

2 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said:

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/liam-mcneeley-exclusive-draft-digest
 

Good read about Liam and his family but according to this article, Liam isn’t making a decision until end of the year. So don’t get your hopes up of a commitment during his visit

I took it as not at the end of the year but by the end of the year. 

Just now, 13th&Jackson said:

Boiler down!!!!!!

2 hours ago, FKIM01 said:

Scott, I can manipulate stats as well.  From 1966 to 1977, there's no NCAA tournament record at all.  Then three good years, then three bad years when K started there.  From 1971 to 1977, Duke didn't even appear in the national rankings.  There was a stretch from 1951 to 1971 when they were a top-20 team.  Then from 1971 until coach K got rolling in 1983, they literally had three good seasons.  Maybe saying they weren't crap before coach K is a bit of hyperbole, but there level of success was much much higher in K's reign than before and prior to K, they had more than one extended period when they went through a desert of underperformance.  If you look at the long-term record, you can draw a lot of parallels between IU and Duke, especially looking at each school before Knight/Coach K arrived.  The only difference being, IU won national championships before Knight.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duke/men/

Also, in case you wonder, I won't address any more comments in the thread of a player who is now dead to me.

Duke was kind of like Wisconsin before K. Timeline is different but similar in view. 

2 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

The question is, does he reach the ceiling in college or pro ball. Would much rather have a guy who is polished over one who has “potential.”

Absolutely. Flory may become a Hanner type. Doubt it. Seems more dialed in. He’s a two year max guy(of course). Will be interesting seeing him in college. 

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

After watching some of Queen's game just now makes feel that if we get Queen we will forget all about Bidunga. Queen had 21/13/9 and woul had a triple double but a player missed a layup at the buzzer off a pass from Queen

Queen is a more finished product. Flory has more ceiling. Imho. 

1 hour ago, rico said:

Well there is a possibility he decommits and ends up at IU.

OTE will steer him to a school(or draft)that fits him. If it’s Purdue so be it. I just doubt it. 

7 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Or maybe the “drama” wasn’t really drama in the grand scheme of things? Maybe it was just a kid being a kid and being peer-pressured by people to decommit?

 

 

Drama is still drama. How well do things turn out on average after things like this happen. Clearly something significant happened. 

7 hours ago, Purdue7 said:

You are saying 5 star recruits get paid?

 

If he is all-in for Purdue great…

if not it’s better to know before next year 

 

Lmao. Yes he’s going to get paid. Like I said one is not like the other. 

39 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

And I’m sure the Catchings can see through any and all of the bs in recruiting since a lot of them have been through it. If they signed off on this, I’m sure it’s legit. 

You are discounting the drama that happened. His family might be all Purdue but imho Kanon isn’t. 

17 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

There’s still an academic component to it though. 

That’s so they stay compliant. While important it’s secondary to the other. 

30 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

My question is why does it matter if he’s going to OTE over a place like LaLu or Montverde? It’s smart to go to a place where he can earn some money. Ivey didn’t have that choice because NIL wasn’t available yet. Ivey went to LaLu which is one of the best prep schools in the country for basketball. He was absolutely on the radar. Both Ivey and Catchings realize going away to live on their own can help prepare them for the rigors of college. Catchings fortunately can make money while doing it too. Both Ivey and Catchings come from significant basketball families who know what the recruiting process entails and it makes sense why they trusted Painter.  

OTE is an NBA training school first. They mirror it. A private school second. The only similarities is they play basketball. Those private schools are like prep for college vs prep for the league. Ivy was a fringe 4 star. He wasn’t close to what Catchings is. Ivey was a Purdue lock. Catchings probably not. 

1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Okay? Care to elaborate?

 

Totally different scenario. Kanon has signaled he’s not sure. My take is he’s going to keep his options open. If he was headed to a private school like montverde imho he would probably go to college. Plus Katchings is a 5* riser. He’s going to maximize his earnings potential. Ivey at this point wasn’t on the radar or close to a 5*. 

42 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Would be surprised if that happened. This move didn’t catch Purdue’s staff off guard by any means. 
 

I remember similar comments being made when Ivey transferred to LaLu that he’d never end up at Purdue too. 

One of them is not like the other. 

2 hours ago, dgambill said:

I suspect him and Braeden Smith will have some pretty epic back n forths. Both seem to be very similar in skill/demeanor. Excited to get him on the court.

Maybe. Smith is 2-3 inches shorter though. Cupps is every bit 6’2. 

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

Watching the Aaron Torres podcast and he said he is hearing it is Duke or Rutgers 

I don’t believe any of those guys. It could be a Duke/Rutgers battle but all these guys are quoting each other. 

4 hours ago, Reacher said:

Saw something that said OSU had picked up some momentum in his recruiting lately 

I think it’s sisely. Haven’t heard anything about Harper and Ohio state. 

35 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Sarcasm is hard. His 5th grade team was UK inspired. “Wildcat”. 🤣

15 hours ago, Purdue7 said:

He would be a 4 or 5 year guy who loved IU…

gotta be worth something 

He was a UK fan growing up. 

1 hour ago, Parakeet Jones said:

Did I miss that we have reached out to this Horton kid, or is it just HSN speculation?  

A little of both. Mostly speculation from my view. 

4 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

The only reason this guy is getting any run is because he’s a S. Indiana guy and a lot of you live down there. Had he been from anywhere north of Indianapolis, no one would care. He is getting too much attention for a guy who is going to play somewhere other than Bloomington. He would have never made it in CMW’s program, given the level of talent that is being recruited. He would have been a prototypical CAM recruit. He disappeared in the second half of the championship game v Blackhawk Christian and certainly did not look like an elite player.

And, what has not been mentioned at all in this thread is the home life he comes from. Have to wonder what of his dad’s problems have affected him. Have to believe that his dad had some impact that could be a negative factor for the kid 

 

Off topic but you could say the same sort of thing about Luke Brown.  It’s insane the amount of attention/hype he got. 

1 hour ago, 02Hoosier said:

It’s probably a single person with little credibility starting a rumor and then people picking it up on Twitter spreading it like they have inside info.

We’ve seen that before. 

The IU media school influence is killer. They do great work on these media releases. This is a big plus in our favor. IU has fully embraced(so far) the modern look. Not to over the top to be campy but fun style. Spend a little and combine forces. (As an example) While I was working at IU I was involved in a crash study. It was cutting edge in that it used the service side to install the equipment. We were the #1 site. The reason was we used the right people for the job. It worked seamlessly. Fun, interesting project. It was the largest study of its kind. 

15 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Is Derik Queen a strong outside shooter?

Yes. His last outing he hit 4 or 5 threes. 3 in one game I believe. Imagine better post moves than Malik with shooting ability.