kyhoosier29

Yeah, my post was more geared at the idea we’re letting A LOT of talent go elsewhere without putting much effort into them because they appeared to be less athletic/skilled than others. Give me a slightly less talented kid that can shoot and knows how to play the game vs a kid that has the so-called more potential that takes two years to develop. This isn’t the old style college formula anymore where you have 3-4 years to watch a kid development. There’s also something to be said about the kid that knows what IU basketball stands for, means a little more.

So you want the kids with more stars next to their name in every occasion no matter where they are from?

Nothing will be easy for us @KoB2011 !

I didn’t look it up, but has MSU gotten stomped by anybody? And did they beat the teams they should have beat the way they should have beat them. NET takes into account efficiency numbers, how you play the game, along with the result right? So just comparing two records doesn’t tell the whole story, but I’d still say theirs looks better seeing they have two quad one wins.

Or believe it or not, given the shortcomings of everybody else, he played error free basketball and there was no good option. I’d vote for him over somebody that had 15 points and 5 turnovers. You’re prob right though, and I may have done the same thing you said. Shit I can’t remember. 😂

Get the Indiana kids that know how to play, know what IU is about, and can shoot. Mix in highly rated, talented out of state kids that fit in. I know we all just want the kids that best fit our roster/style regardless of location, but I think we’ve found out over the years that those kids are usually sitting in our backyard. We don’t solely need kids with a lot of stars next to their names.

Good grief I wouldn’t want to get pulled over by him. Can’t handle power at all!

I hadn’t seen him this year, but that tells you why that game was officiated so poorly. I was just told that a certain few guys didn’t get renewed. I hadn’t seen him or Scirotto so figured they got canned. Hopefully for the Big10 that was one of one or a couple for Green. Anybody seen Scirotto this year? I don’t watch much when IU isn’t playing.

Your primary officials (unsure how many are actually called primary - can find out) will get more Big10 games, so you’ll see somebody like DJ Carstensen more often than some others. He’s less likely to have multiple conferences consecutive nights. But they draw from a pool of secondary officials to typically fill the other two spots pretty regularly and those guys are more likely to have multiple conferences in consecutive nights. I know there was emphasis on officials doing a better job this year in the Big10, and I truly believe they have been for the most part. But that’s why you don’t see guys like Larry Scirotto or Courtney Green anymore. The Big10 booted them essentially. Prob more guys I’m missing. Can prob find that out too.

I can understand your last two paragraphs, but your first one is inaccurate. One of the guys that did the Iowa game Tues night actually officiates in numerous conferences, and HAS had times this year where he did three different conferences three nights in a row. For example, he did a Big10 game one night, SEC game the following night, and then an American game the next night, followed up by another SEC game two nights later. Conferences have primary officials and also secondary officials that they pull from. This isn’t an opinion btw. I know that for a fact.

I’m in the very small minority here when I say this, but it looked like the Nwestern guy put his arm under Edey’s initially, arms weren’t really straight up, but I don’t understand why it wasn’t called on the floor. More importantly what I don’t understand is why he was allowed to just slam into the Nwestern kid pushing him halfway down the lane. He should have been called for a charge and then the other stuff doesn’t happen.

Meh, I mean you’re prob right, we don’t win without Ware, but we also don’t win without Leal. That’s all hypothetical anyway, we don’t really know bc it didn’t happen. We can play the what if game all day. We also prob don’t go down to the wire IF Ware doesn’t miss five FTs. Each person gets to vote on what stats they felt were most valuable. Agree on not voting when we lose. Btw, you’re wrong…. Look at the poll results. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

You trying to debate me on why my opinionated vote is incorrect? 😂 I mean there are numerous scenarios for why the best player statistically may not have been the MVP. Not always clear who the best player statistically is anyway. I’d argue Leal’s 7 rebounds out of the guard position, off the bench no less, is more valuable than a 7 footer’s 10. I could also argue Leal hit some bigger, more difficult shots while not missing 5 FTs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah, your last part is the purpose for my comment.

MVP doesn’t necessarily mean best player on the floor that night. 🤷🏻‍♂️

You thought the officiating was poor? That was the best officiated game I’ve seen in the Big10 this year IMO. Who cares that they reviewed X’s foul, it WAS intentional, but they got it right. He could have actually just gone for the ball to try to steal it instead of blatantly fouling, which made it look awkward. And I thought the ball was coming down when Ware blocked it. He does that A LOT by the way…. interested to know how many goaltendings he has this year. Enjoyed the style of play tonight much more than usual. Great effort on D for the most part. My only two complaints, FREE THROWS!!! and I’ll never understand why you even allow Sandfort to catch the ball. Guy was feeling it and there were multiple moments where our guys weren’t even looking at him or ready to guard him.

You “EXPECT” change, or are hoping for it? 😂

He better learn to shoot again. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Not sure how much of a change of scenery helps that.

He can turn and face but not with his elbows swinging to create that space.

He’s not allowed to create space that is already taken.

I was there as well. I think I’m part of the problem. Was also at the Purdue RMK game. Think we’ve lost 4 of the 5 home games I’ve attended in the last five years. Will be at the Wiscy game this year, so anybody expecting a win may need to think twice. 😬

I think you should make it one of the three musketeers. 😉

I don’t think MR subconsciously decides he isn’t passing it bc other guys can’t shoot. I think he just tucks his head and is determined to shoot and only passes it if he simply can’t get a shot off, which has also led to a high turnover rate for him. I get what you’re saying, but he’s essentially saying, the hell with being a good teammate and playing the right way, I’m just going to duck my head and shoot it every time and show everybody I’m not the problem. He’s likely not subconsciously saying that to himself either, but that’s what it looks like. My opinion MAY be slightly different IF I felt like he worked hard on the defensive end and rebounding the basketball.

Can’t vote…. Not one player had a solid “all-around” game.

No offense, but 12-22 on FTs and giving up 13 offensive rebounds doesn’t scream a lot of effort. You believe they are putting in the effort in practice shooting FTs and blocking out? Or outside of practice when it comes to FTs? I didn’t post during the game thread and wasn’t planning on posting in this thread bc I didn’t want to “pile on” with the negative comments. But which part are we supposed to be getting behind? Just so I know how to be a better fan.