Hoosierdave

Ngl I feel like we’re gonna lose. Can’t rebound and Ohio st is in the bonus

Do we practice rebounding and does our staff know that most teams miss more than they make so it’s kind of a vital part of basketball?

Ohio st proving how easy it is to guard us on D. Just plant your big men under the hoop to contest/block shots because it’s always going to end up there.

I really struggle to understand why when the other team puts their center on Reneau that we still try and go through him via post ups instead of using pnr action with Ware on a shorter defender

So we have a first round NBA player in Ware and our staff decides to have Gunn, Reneau, X, Banks, etc take shots instead…

They both are dressed and warming up so assuming it’s nothing serious.

I guess instead of complaining about what has happened so far this season, here’s what I would like to see moving forward: -Utilize more of the action where we throw 3 people on one side and have either Ware/Reneau play a 2 man game with Gallo/X. I don’t love Ware/Reneau with their backs to the basket because they get it stripped or they don’t recognize the double quick enough and throw it away. I’d prefer simplifying things for them and getting them going towards the basket with a full head of steam, and worst case need 1-2 dribbles max before putting up a shot. I’d like to see us maximize Ware’s height and vertical because that is an objective advantage he has over a lot of guys he’ll face this year. -When we do throw the ball into the post for Ware/Reneau, make sure that Mac is the nearest perimeter option. He’s the most confident/comfortable catch & fire shooter. Gotta take the wide open 3s when they are available. if we need to reverse the ball, we have guys like Gallo and X that I’m confident can get to the rim/draw fouls because defenders are now out of position and scrambling. -Give Mac more isolation opportunities. I don’t love him getting the ball curling off a screen because he isn’t particularly fast and it forces him to put the ball on the deck in traffic. He’s also our best free throw shooter so giving him space to create against smaller guys could go a long way. Also, can we at least give him a shot at the 4? I’m baffled we haven’t seen a single minute of that yet, considering that would be utilizing him most effectively. -Utilize a zone more. If these guys are being taught to overhelp and prevent drives to the rim, might as well have Ware/Reneau under the basket to block shots and be in better positions to rebound and outlet the ball to guys like X and Gallo who then can get out in transition and run. -Maybe throw in a press occasionally? Considering that we don’t really utilize our guards for playmaking on the offensive side, might as well tire out the other teams guards. That way, you hope all those 3 point shots these teams take come up short because of tired legs, and the lack of power on the shot prevents those long rebounds that we constantly lose. We’re not a great rebounding and FT shooting team, so need to find ways to get extra possessions. Obviously having one open scholarship and no Jakai makes this a little more difficult. -Get into our sets much quicker on offense. Considering that we don’t shoot many 3s and play from behind constantly, you can’t afford to waste almost the whole shot clock aimlessly passing the ball around in a circle.

Good analysis. Just a couple things I respectfully disagree on: -Being young/new faces-> Purdue has been one of the best teams for the last 2 years and relies on a backcourt of underclassman. They also weren’t big time recruits/burger boys coming in. Also, Duke/Kentucky/etc rely on freshman year after year and do just fine. Just like us, here’s a list of (ranked) teams that have at least 2 new starters on their team: Kansas, UConn, Illinois, UK, UNC, Zona, Memphis, Baylor, Texas, Gonzaga. Jakai’s impact-> He’s been injured so long and hasn’t played competitive basketball in a while. Also hasn’t played a single game of college basketball so I think it’s a bit of a leap to assume he would have made a big impact. He also wasn’t known for his perimeter scoring, which is what we need most.

I felt this way after the Kansas game and especially after that Morehead st game. Like Trilly Donovan said with Fran and Iowa, I think IU is in purgatory with Coach Woodson. You can’t fire him because he’s made progress each year and it would be a bad look for our program to have so many different coaches in so many years. Also wouldn’t have the necessary money to make a big time hire with buyouts. But there’s no reason to suggest he was a great hire and shouldn’t be on the hot seat. Maybe I’m ignorant but on paper I see talent and potential in this team. But so many aspects absolutely baffle me. Our defense consists of over helping and giving up wide open shots. Good teams make them and get confident quickly. Then our offense consists of wasting half the shot clock with our guards standing around waiting for a pick, or passing the ball around in a circle to feed the post and have either Ware or Reneau shoot through 2-3 guys. We struggle to rebound, shoot free throws, and win the turnover battle regularly. We also have no leadership. If I didn’t know the captains, I would have guessed it was Walker and Leal. Away from home we look lost and uninspired. Nothing about us gives me confidence Woodson can turn this around this year or next. His roster construction and style of play leads me to believe that he’ll continue to be stubborn and not make the necessary adjustments all us fans see and have been bitching and moaning about for years. He’s also royally screwed us with recruiting guards because we have no film that doesn’t involve our bigs always being the center of attention. Unless Woody decides to make Liam the primary scoring option and kills it in the portal, this is basically the kiss of death for IU basketball.

Literally. Started to climb back in and playing with more intensity and it evaporates in a second.

Fingers crossed getting Mac and Reneau back make the difference. At least those 2 play with confidence and have a desire to be assertive with the ball in their hands. Gotta get out and run in transition. Half court offense looks terrible and is causing most of the turnovers. Someone needs to give ware a shove in the locker room and wake him up. You’re 7ft, demand the ball and get to the rim. Assert yourself! Also my god stop with the dumb reach in fouls!!

This might be the worst half I’ve seen them play. Just astonishingly bad turnovers and fouls.

Maybe it’s just me but I’m totally fine with him waiting until the spring to make a decision. Not that I wouldn’t be excited if he committed earlier, I just personally would prefer to have a proof of concept/larger sample size of Reneau being able to shoot and beat players off the dribble from the perimeter. Reneau to me has the style and best fit to be a small ball 5. Also, I’ve yet to see any mock drafts have Mgbako going first round, so I’m personally more excited about having him for a second year and finally playing the 4. Reneau/Mac/Liam sounds stylistically far more effective and complimentary than Queen/Reneau/Liam. I just want to see a more modernized style we were promised from Woody after TJD left.

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Hoping this is the “getting over the hump” game in terms of balanced offense. Finally scoring from all 3 levels. Guys look like they are having fun, playing with some confidence and swagger.

Am I the only one confused as to why Coach doesn’t know his health status lol?

Mass subbing after a good start…wtf

Perfect lol! Need to be much better rebounding as a result, exhausting watching all these teams get second chance opportunities from chucking up shots and not having to value the ball. Snag those rebounds and use transition opportunities to draw fouls and get easy baskets. Get these guys into foul trouble early so we can utilize our strengths (Ware/Reneau) down low and put them in a tough spot to defend without fouling. We know perimeter scoring is not our strength so we need to beat them in the other aspects of basketball that are just as important (turnovers, FT’s, hustle plays).

Really bold choice by the social media team with the all caps. I would have personally gone with size 1 font or maybe if I did all caps thrown in a “??” at the end haha

I legit only watched the last 30 seconds because I thought I was going to vomit watching that game unfold. Im happy for our guys that we won that game but I don’t see this team making the tourney. Hope I’m wrong but we have such a glaring weakness (guard play, leadership) that it will continue to get exposed and it’s too late to make any roster changes.

This. Woodson said himself once TJD left we would get away from pounding the ball inside. Not only do we do the same thing, it’s arguably worse because TJD was at least a great passer and we had a guy like Fino who could create for himself. This staff has no one to blame but themselves, and a loss like this essentially kills any momentum you’ve built over the past 2 years. A game like this a prime example of how this system is screwed unless you have a lead. You can never climb back into a game unless you have a guy who can score from behind the arc.

Haven’t been able to watch (probably won’t after seeing the score, not sure I can be mature enough to watch them lose). Not surprising at all IMO. Deflating loss Saturday and probably feeling sorry for themselves they blew the one chance they had to turn the season around + not comparable energy at AH. I’ll save my comments I didn’t post in the Kansas game when this game wraps.

I hope im wrong but I just don’t see us winning. I don’t see a single matchup advantage (maybe Ware?) to exploit. Sounds like X won’t play. Bill Self is the best coach in CBB and our coach struggles to understand his own roster year after year and with his mass subbing I don’t have confidence in us keeping any momentum we may build. Only way I see us winning is if we play like that UNC game last year and bring the defensive intensity from the start and get Kansas out of sorts. we’ll need extra possessions via turnovers and rebounds to have a shot. At the very least, I want to see this team play with their hair on fire because this is basically a do or die game if you don’t want to be biting your nails come selection Sunday.

He’s apparently visiting this weekend along with Sisley, Sanon, and Tiller.

CC’ing Coach Woodson