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There was contact, to me the contact was caused by the reaction to the initial foul and the fact that Peyton is a tall guy so when he pushes the fouler off the arm was high. I don't have an issue with them calling that as long as they also call Edey every time he takes his arm/elbow and puts it into the chin of his defender to make space for a shot. He does that at least once every game. At least. And by the letter of the law those should be fouls too. "OH my, how do we officiate him because of his size?" say the stupid BIG refs. Well you do the way you do with everyone else. The reason he gets the sh*t fouled out of him is because of how physical he is allowed to be IMO. Start calling that physicality both ways and it clears right up. Either he figures out how to get his shot without the elbows to the head or he sits on the bench in foul trouble. And if he isn't throwing elbows, then defenders need to out athlete him by taking away passing angles and such.

I agree with that if I don't feel like the guy in charge only had a 7 to 10 year shelf life to begin with. You can stomach a year 3 hiccup for a 45 year old, it is harder with a 65 year old. One guy has time to grow and the other was supposed to be a finished product.

All I know is that the last game established an arm to the face is a flagrant foul. Based on how Sparks was called, Edey should be on the bench by about the 5th time down the floor....

So anybody that considers themselves a leader on the team has to be pointing out that the goal right now is to get in the tournament and see if we can go on a run. You still technically have a chance and going on the road and beating Purdue should go a long way towards keeping hope alive. It is a tall order but somebody has to do what Galloway did at Ohio State and kind of say, "This is for us, let's pay these a$$holes back for last month."

It was nice to be on the other side of one of those for once. We've blown a bunch of big leads this year.

I think you need to win 6 out of 8 to be anywhere near the conversation and that might not even do it because of the hole we dug by not blowing out the crap teams at the beginning of the year.

He and Miller both came in and at the time both looked like decent hires...didn't really work out for either of them.

That block looked clean to me. Ball was at it's apex at best.

So I just want to say that it is clear apathy has set in, even around here. Only 5 pages after a loss like that and you know that people have already thrown in the towel.

I don't have an issue with Cupps. He wasn't supposed to be a starting PG as a Freshman. I also think he would do alright in a different type of systemic set up. If we keep him around for 4 years, he will contribute.

Who has Hunter brought in the last 3 years?

Somebody has to get fired for this year. If Woodson is going to get another chance (and I think he will), I am forcing him to fire Hunter at the very least.

Horrible look for the school. This is a MASSIVE f--- up if they feel like they have to fire him.

I mean, how could they have known they would have that need? (Sarcasm folks, don't kill me)

Nah, plenty of Saturday left. I mostly gave up on this season mattering several games ago.

Don't hold your breath. He will be here next year.

Yep, which is why I said the scheme is broken.

Somebody from this staff better get their walking papers after the year. I doubt Woodson is going anywhere but somebody has to get fired for this crap.

The team that Penn State last beat in Bloomington is eerily like this one. Got a 1st round draft pick and enough talent to be better than we are but..... The scheme is broken, the correct off season moves (that everyone saw were needed) were not made, and here we are.

And any media person not afraid to lose their credentials should have followed up that statement with a question like, "Given that, do you wish you had a do over on not filling the 13th scholarship?" IU media are kind of cowardly down the line though.

I think the sport in general allows too much contact in the post. For instance, I will rag on a play involving one of our guys here. I think it was the Illinois game where Reneau caught the ball in the post and full on slammed into one of their guys 3 or 4 times before putting up a shot (which he made). They said it was good, tough Big Ten basketball and I was thinking that on the road he is lucky it wasn't an offensive foul. The amount of contact that college allows in the post ugliest up the game IMO. Everybody is fouling everyone down there, often egregiously, on every play.

Put the Purdue fan take in there too. I know people go after Edey about the 3 second call quite a bit but this to me is what he gets away with every game. An elbow to the head is what according to the rulebooks?

If it were Xavier Johnson or CJ Gunn it would be an ejection...

Forget that, that skips the most basic of questions, how do you align that with forcing someone to go to a certain school? This is supposedly still a bunch of academic entities. I think if you are to that point that the schools would have to completely separate the athletic department from the school. And I would hope at some point all the eggheads would look at each other and ask just WTF they are doing.

Camera angles and bald will do that to you too. Mullins has quite a head of hair.