HoosierDom

2 hours ago, dgambill said:

The official should just told him pick a side and if you move just called a delay…next delay would be a tech. They just took way too long to call the delay.

But who has to pick first?

Not that anyone should care, but here are my thoughts.

I certainly wasn't watching him the whole game, but Reneau's D seemed lacking. He got burned on the perimeter, was out of position on the post and had 2 specific possessions I remember where he got those stupid De'Ron David type fouls where he just had his arms in a dumb place for no reason and got a ticky-tack whistle. He was his old, patient self on offense, though - hopefully that carries over against better competition.

Ware looked like the guy in the MSU/UConn highlights from last year. When he gets the ball in the right spot, there's not much that can be done to stop him. 

I didn't think MM looked like an athletic slasher/finisher, but he looked smooth with his jumper. 

For a brief second, I thought Sparks looked like Zion as he went out on the break. Then he basically tripped over himself and got hurt. I'm not sure I will have that thought again. But, man, that spin move in the first half was fast. Not much you can do when a truck spins on you like that.

I was hoping against hope that the off-season rumors were legit and Galloway could be a guy that could create offense with the ball in his hand. That did not seem to be the case. I didn't see much from anyone that makes me think we have guys that can just beat their man off the dribble. I'm still hopeful MM can do that.

43 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

Huh?  Tv deals and ticket sales pay athletic department salaries.  And enough to build new geology buildings with the surplus.  Each B1G school got 58 million from TV alone in 2022.  These funds are not allowed to pay NIL.  NIL is from private money.  

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-leads-power-five-conferences-with-845-6-million-in-revenue-in-2022-fiscal-year-per-report/

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2019/06/19/indiana-university-using-big-ten-network-money-more-than-just-athletics/1357099001/

I can't say I know the ins and outs of how an AD budget is organized, but I do know every time there is a buy-out or a huge contract offered to get a new guy, there are countless articles about booster money. I don't have the time to Google for a source, but they're not hard to find. I would assume that there is a more or less set budget that ADs can't deviate from easily, so if they need money to make a change (as they often do), they need to get it from boosters. 

The first result I found show that in 2017, before NIL, the average BIG school had over 25 million in athletic department donations. That, presumably, isn't even including special fundraising to move to a new big name guy.

https://dbknews.com/2018/07/07/maryland-athletic-department-revenue-big-ten-tv-contract-payout-ticket-sales-donations/

That's the money that will go to kids. Individual schools need obviously have to figure out how that get's divided up between the school and the kids, but I would guess a school that wants to be successful would send as much as possible to the players. That money has been there for years and I can't imagine it drying up. I would guess it will grow now that there is a more direct result on the court (ie. a player comes rather than merely a coach who often doesn't get the job done). If you don't think a school can direct donors to give that money to some collective rather than the athletic department itself, I don't know what to tell you. 

4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

Exactly.   Good for them but it's crazy.  How sustainable is this?  If I'm really rich, I may tell Woodson and Dolson, look, I'll give you 10 mil a year for 3 years and if you can't get a championship in that window, I'm out of the NIL business.   

Why do people always question the sustainability of NIL, but not coach salaries? If I recall, we had something like 70 million lined up for Stevens to be our coach. Why would the people who were going to provide those funds not cough up money for players? Even if NIL doesn't grow the pool of money (I think it probably does grow it, but that's just a guess), there will still be enough to pay a kid 2 million a year.

53 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Yes, you're probably right...He either threw a dart at a calendar or drew the date from a hat...

Call it what you will, but I'm positive it's a big day for Woody and the Team...Do they hire high priced musical talent for a "glorified pep rally"?

Man, that really seems like the perfect definition of a glorified pep rally.

Do you honestly think it's a big day for Woody? He's excited for the half-assed scrimmage? The 10,000th dunk contest he's seen? The Gucci Mane concert? Even if he's a fan, a grown man is excited for a 10 minute show? The players are probably excited, they're still new to hype like that, but I promise you it's not a big day for Woody. 

Maybe Boogie is a fan, maybe Boogie is excited for a glorified pep rally - he's probably never been to one before - so maybe he wants to commit and go. I definitely think that could be the case. But, if Boogie decided on Kentucky last week, he never once tried to time his announcement around our pep rally. It he didn't pick us, our event is no where on his radar. I'm sure Kentucky has a similar event, and Alabama, too, does he have to time his announcement so as not to interfere with those?

1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

"Hey Coach Woodson, this is Boogie. Not to rain on any parades, but I just called to tell you that about 5 hours before you kick off Hoosier Hysteria , I'm going to announce my commitment to your hated rival, UK... Oh

and take that with ya"

No way... 

I'm not buying that logic. It's a glorified pep-rally, it's not some IU holy day. If he's picking Kentucky, he probably forgot it's even happening.

9 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

I'm just saying that I believe Joe Tipton will be the one behind Boogie's announcement video, he's the one that released the graphic entailing his commitment date. No clue if he tips off guys like Slater or Cassidy or whomever in the industry. But I wouldn't think he's that dumb. He's got a good gig going for him. 

Help me understand what this guy does. He makes fancy graphics when a guy commits? Does someone pay him for that? Do the players pay for those? If I'm Boogie, assuming I don't want to pay him, why would I tell him in advance where I'm going?

1 minute ago, FritzIam4IU said:

That penalty was a killer...can't have that. Erased a 37 yard pass play.

He got beat, though. If he didn't grab him, that's a sack.

Really looked like both receivers were open, so he tried to throw it in the middle.

Why are these deserving of their own thread? Seems better suited to a post in the NIL thread - one that will go largely ignored, I might add. The one time I listened to his show, I gave him 10 minutes and he had less actual basketball content than most one paragraph posts on here.

4 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

I don’t understand the comments about lack of 3 point volume and concern that it will carry over to this year. It was clear that our offense was going to run through the inside with TJD and to a lesser degree, Race. By design, 3 point shooting was going to be limited. Trey and X have shown they can shoot a from distance at good clips and I can see CMW wanting to run this team’s offense to better take advantage. I think we’ll see a much different style of play and many more opportunities for long range shooters from all least 4 of the 5 positions.

Trey and X have shown they can hit open shots when TJD creates those shots. That's a very valuable skill, but it is not the same skill that a guy like Love (not saying we should get him) has, where he gets his own shot. You can't just scale that up and have Trey and X jack 150+ 3's a year and expect the percentages to stay the same. Maybe they improve this off-season and get there, but thus far, they have not shown the ability to get themselves that many looks. Hopefully, with MM and our front court, they won't have to.

1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I wish him well in the NBA ASAP.  😉  Purdue is a totally different team if he goes and I think his loss drops their potential finish in the BIG by 5 spots, give or take.  (From the 2-3 range down to 7-8).

Painter has earned the benefit of the doubt, but I have a hard time seeing how that team even makes it to the 7-8 range without Edey. He covers for so many of their faults all over the floor. Without him, I think a lot of warts are going to show through.

edit: I see now that you are saying in conference. I guess that's similar, but with a down year in the conference, that seems reasonable. I thought you were pegging them as a 7-8 seed, which I think is optimistic without Edey.

3 minutes ago, BGleas said:

First thing Barkely said St halftime was how awful the refs have been. 

I can't point to probably six plays where the Celtics got clearly fouled at the rim and no clue, including both White and Smart drives late in the half. 

We're attacking and have taken 3 free throws. 

Sure looked like an offensive foul on that first replay of a turnover and run-out they just showed.

Miami only has 8 free throws. One of those is from a T and the C's are lucky they don't have more of those.

3 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Seriously, the Celtics aren't getting any calls at all when they drive. It's crazy. 

I missed the first 6-7 minutes of the game, but in what I have seen, I don't think it has been unfair.

Did I miss something? That was the most blatant lane violation I have ever seen that wasn't called.

13 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

 

Except for the fact you're comparing a college freshman to a guy that just finished his 3rd year of college basketball...

Comparing their freshman seasons paints a vastly different picture...

I'd assume JHS would have progressed greatly in his game at the college level, but we;ll never know...He's off to the NBA...

Would we be getting freshman year Love or senior year Love?

I get why the NBA wants JHS and not Love, and this points, at least somewhat, to that, but I don't think this tells the story of what we would get next year.

Compare Love's numbers, particularly his percentages and number of shots taken, to JHS. There are a lot of similarities. JHS shot more 2's and hit them at a lower clip. The only glaring difference is that Love shot roughly 4 more 3's per game and hit them at a slightly lower rate. There true shooting percentages (accounts for the fact that 3's are worth more) are almost identical. Just looking at the numbers, it seems like Love should shoot fewer 3's, but his numbers aren't those of some crazy out of control shooter. He's basically JHS who takes 2 steps back instead of shooting so many mid-ranged shots.

16 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Yeah...that speaks volumes to me.  Sounds like bridges were burned.  As I said earlier, I suspect we'll know clearly what Coach Woodson thinks of Caleb Love very soon.

I read that more as he doesn't want to go back, not that he wouldn't be welcome.

Adding him seems to raise our ceiling, but maybe also lowers our floor.

1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said:

I wonder if Tyrin Lawrence from Vandy is a possibility?

I was incredibly impressed by his tape. I hope we're going after him.

1 hour ago, Drroogh said:

I’m probably in the minority but I don’t think the focus should be on finding a better option than Trey. I look and I still see X as the only blow by player. We need someone else that can not only blow by people but more importantly stop people like him. Look what happened last year when X got injured!

I would have thought a pg equivalent of Walker would have been a top priority, but, as far as I can tell, we have reached out to no pgs. I have to assume that means coach trusts Cupps to be able to contribute from day one.

47 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

The only times I can recall us winning a recruiting battle with Kansas were Romeo Langford and James Blackmon Jr. Being the home state school obviously helped us with both of them. Getting an out of state 5 star prospect that Kansas and Duke both wanted would be monumental, if not unprecedented. 

Didn't Kansas make a late push on Galloway?

7 minutes ago, rico said:

...as his NBA draft stock plunged.  The kid did not play up to expectations.

I'm not disputing that. What I'm saying is that any kid ranked that highly, even the one that comes to mind as an epic bust, is going to be our starting 3 next year. 

12 minutes ago, rico said:

It is an expectation.  Pure and simple.  Nothing wrong with having it just like there is nothing wrong with expecting MM to earn his minutes.

That being said I expect big things from him, personally.  But I can't get Emoni Bates out of my head.

Bates, despite injuries, averaged 10 ppg as a freshman. If we could get a time machine to bring us freshman year Emoni Bates, he would be the starting 3 on this roster.

Seems a lot like McNeeley, who has always struck me as playing a lot like Carmelo. Hope coach sells them both by showing all the things he did for Carmelo and who better do develop Carmelo Jr.?

12% from deep gets you labeled a stretch big?