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On 2/3/2024 at 8:21 PM, IUCrazy2 said:

So I just want to say that it is clear apathy has set in, even around here.  Only 5 pages after a loss like that and you know that people have already thrown in the towel.

Love Gabe’s work ethic and if I were him, I’d take a redshirt next year.  Bulk up and put up hundreds of three’s a day, live in the film room.  Knowing how much he works, I think it would do him wonders.   I don’t want him to wake up and be a junior already and have time start running out.   To redshirt him, you need three new guards to go with a super senior Trey and Newton.   

1 hour ago, SawatchHoosier said:

 

 

Meanwhile our AD and the rest of the BIG Ten ADs sit around chugging turds all day. 

Mack got his master’s from IU too.  

1 hour ago, IUDan93 said:

I just fired off an email to Dolson about sh**canning IU Scott.

The fans are the problem.  

Whoa, I just looked at our schedule the rest of the way.  Ouch, the staff better develop some adjustments.  After you get dismantled by Penn State at home, anything else will look difficult but hopefully we can get some W’s.  

I don’t agree that our talent is good enough.  Our 1-3 positions collectively are subpar.  We have 3 five-star recruits but it’s imbalanced.   We lack team quickness and shooting.  Don’t get me wrong, it’s on the staff and there are alot of issues with the adjustments but I am not buying the talent issue.  

Next year I’d like to see three capable guards added to the mix, a big guy and maybe another 2/3 to go with McNeely.  That’s assuming we don’t lose someone good that is unexpected.  

If you assume Woody doesn’t walk away and that Dusty doesn’t make another final four run, then Woody would be back but you’d have to look hard at the staff, with assistants but all those bodies hovering around the bench.   

5 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

That’s fair enough. I think the right guy (hope that’s Woody moving forward) can find the right balance of kids like the state typically produces mixed with out-of-state, talented guys that know how to play. 

100%.  It’s the mixture of having 5 star athletes and savvy, tough, skilled players.  From the beginning of time, that tough “Indiana boy” player gets churned out by the state.  Some states are full of urban areas and they spit out the Lew Alcindors.  Indiana has the stereotype of the hoop stuck on a barn or garage and some kid shoveling snow so he can shoot outside.   We produce that kid like California produces fake boobs on a bleached blonde.   It would be idiotic not to take advantage of our strengths, in-state.  

A big issue is talent evaluation, makeup, character, effort, motor, competitiveness.  We need a blend of some of those guys.  Gabe Cupps has it.   The kid who wants to put up hundreds of shots, gets in the weight room, studies, can’t get enough, instead of the kid who looks great getting off the bus, wants to get high all the time, can’t hit a free throw to save his life but on paper looks theoretically good.  We have lost track of that analysis.  

Bob Knight had it.  He was pulling in Tom Coverdale and Kirk Haston.  

It’s the inevitable end-game.  It’s just a matter of when.  At some point, leadership at the schools who make the real money aren’t going to want to share it.  

On 1/29/2024 at 2:20 PM, 13th&Jackson said:

He was coaching when he was 7?

I have an eight year old and that's basically him lol.  

I have heard a couple of interviews with our DC Haines.  Very bright guy, super articulate and energetic.  I can see why CCC's touts him so much.  

46-8 is unjustifiable.  Something like 35-15 would have still been a big discrepancy and more realistic.  

The difference between IU fans and other fans is there is a hell of a lot more realism and self-awareness here, not just blind endorsement of your school.  It's a cultural thing.  Indiana fans grew up this way.

3 hours ago, cthomas said:

Now there's a name I haven't heard mentioned in a long time. I went to school with him one year in junior high school. He's definitely on the list of the five best shooters I've ever seen.

Little before my time.  My earliest memories from college basketball would be 1975….wish there was better footage of games from the 1960s and early 1970s

2 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

From last May

Got my wish 🙂

Great call!

Very happy for Leal tonight.   Hopefully he keeps going.  He was SOLID

I get that X is public enemy number one for the refs but this is pathetic to even be reviewed.  

I like Reneau a lot.  He’s pretty brilliant scoring in the post.  He’s got rare talent in that respect.  Having said that, I do think he makes up his mind that he’s going to shoot sometimes and turns off reading the defense.   That shows up in rebounding too.  Yes he got 7 yesterday, but you have to anticipate, read angles, block out.   I think he can still get a lot better by seeing the floor better and reading/anticipating.   

2 hours ago, SawatchHoosier said:

How is this possible? If I served this type of garbage at my bakery I'd be out of business in a week.

You have a bakery in the mountains?  What an idyllic life!

3 minutes ago, Reacher said:

Wow MM with 9 boards 

Is that a foul call on IU every time Illinois is in half court?

From a matchup standpoint, they’ve got guys on the perimeter who can really go off the bounce.  We just gave up 91 to team with plodding guys who we couldn’t stop.  The matchup sure doesn’t look good on paper.  Marcus Domask.  I don’t see how we match up there at all the way we play.  They really played the portal well.   As much heat as Woody is rightfully getting, he does have a staff too.  The magnifying glass needs pointed that way.  

We need a guy like Felling who made Coach look at Cheaney and Evans.  We found an unheralded guy in Kirk Haston.   On and on.  There’s more to recruiting than opening the Indy Star and seeing who they rate.  Go find the next Jake LaRavia or Desmond Bane or Bryant McIntosh or Barnhizer or Davis from Gary playing for Dusty or even the two guards from 17-3 Indiana State.  Those are just in-state guys.  I’d love a job where I got paid well to go evaluate players.  Aside from Walsh, this should be a very good discussion going forward.  

14 hours ago, 5fouls said:

My college basketball interest is at an all-time low.  If IU is ever bad enough to miss out on the BTT with the new format, I might just hang it up.  

The way the sports landscape is trending, college football is erupting and college basketball may become a niche sport.  A lot of people will tell you that it’s a March Madness event only.   College basketball has a lot of existential issues IMO….

31 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I get what you’re saying, but if he has them sitting at 19-9 and top 25 in most metrics they’re going to be in a really good spot. They may very well still end up with a better season than we had last year, so that’s pretty good for a down year. 

Yeah unless I misread something, I think they are 25 in the NET and we are 98

1 hour ago, BADGERVOL said:

I want a new coach soon but everything I’ve read is that Woodson is very engaged with recruiting so this flies in the face of that. Not a fan from the beginning BUT I want to be level headed and fair also

I think we go one more year with some assumptions.   Let Woody get 3 veteran guards in the portal who can shoot and defend, and let’s change our approach on the court.  Let’s get the three ball going and get perimeter defense (both on the shot and the drive) drastically improved.   Giving up 91 points in a Big Ten game is absurd.   Maybe 1-2 assistants get swapped out.   No more ejections.  Get the 2025 class lined up.  Then hopefully we are back on track.  

If there’s not a drastic change with style of play and success, then next year all bets will be off.  

27 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Speaking of tap into...

Can we get some beer-pong tables set up? Couple rounds of flippy cup going? I mean we are coordinating this WITH Little 5, right? 

joking...

My use of “buzz” might have been inadvertently unfortunate lol 

1 minute ago, ledies22 said:

I think McNeeley wants to be a 1 and done. Also, assuming nothing drastic is happening with the lineup, Woodson needs McNeeley to be a 1 and done assuming the correlation between McNeeleys success and IU's

Regardless, I think they can play on the court at the same time. 

Exactly, McNeely very openly has said he wants to be a one and done.  So, according to script, the plan is he wouldn’t even be on the roster with Sisley.   McNeely also plays a lot of 2 guard in high school.   They roll out Queen, Flagg, Newell and McNeely together.  All four over 6’8.  A bit positionless but McNeely looked like the shooting guard.  

22 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said:

Just realized it’s a Thursday night, so truly is a little 500 kickoff.

Seems like a very smart idea to get some buzz and to coordinate with Little 5.  That is a huge advantage on our campus that is smart to tap into.