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Bert Jones was one tough son of a gun. One of the really good quarterbacks who doesn’t get mentioned enough.

Desmond and Molly Jones Did Quincy Jones get mentioned?

Shirley Jones from the Partridge Family

Caldwell Jones and then there’s this: Definition of jones (Entry 1 of 7) intransitive verb slang : to have a strong desire or craving for something he was jonesing for a drink

Somebody may recall the details better than me, but we’ve heard that Archie really likes him. I think the story was something like Braden visited for a game, and afterwards Archie said he liked him and didn’t care how tall he was. I have not seen the kid in person so it’s hard to get a good gauge on this from clips, but he looks physically strong and tough. It looks like his core is especially solid. My thinking is everything starts with the core, Being a tough, strong guard can be a plus. There’s more than one way to skin a cat, and not everybody needs to be long, lean and an electric athlete. As for ranking, I truly don’t care other than a curiosity. I, like others, tend to think he won’t be top 150. The ratings “gurus” tend to overrate physical athleticism and length, and underestimate the “it factor” and the kid that just has that indescribable winning gene. There are plenty of good athletes that play basketball that end up rated 75 or whatever because they fit the profile. But they may not have what I referred to as the “it factor.” They run around, look good physically, but just don’t have the knack to make those winning plays.

Braden Smith gives me that “tough Indiana kid” vibe embodied in a guy like Tom Coverdale. Ranking is irrelevant. We win with those guys.

Good video. That would have been a fun matchup to watch. Both players look really, really good. Thanks for posting that.

Sounds familiar. Lol. Some things are universal.

We kept our summer associate program and are trying to get them involved, but realistically it’s difficult to get them any exposure. Coming into the office is optional until August 1, even for staff.

Vince playing until he is 43 is downright amazing considering the physical pounding and athleticism involved. Tip of the cap. Let’s be honest, Brady playing at age 43 is also amazing. I wonder if we start seeing more of this as quarterbacks don’t get hit like they once did. You do have to avoid arm problems though That’s a lot of strain. Herschel Walker has been in phenomenal shape in his older age. My favorite story though might be Darrell Green. He ran the 40 in like 4.2 at age 40. He wants to run a 4.5 when he’s 60 I think he ran a 4.4 at age 50. Just awesome. https://washington.cbslocal.com/2018/01/15/darrell-green-wants-to-run-a-4-5-second-40-at-age-60/

Obviously I have no idea. But my logic tells me that’s hard to believe. If it were true we would be in herd immunity territory and this thing would be downshifting toward the end. Just making up a stat using scale, I’d think 30-50 million were realistic. I’m all for it being the big number, because the nightmare would be about done.

I forgot where we heard it, but recall that Archie commented that things looked good with the ‘21 class.

Lostin76, sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing the story. Did you have to pull over and throw up from hunger? I hadn’t heard of that before.

Anyone care to make a projection on Gunn as compared with Wesley? They are at two different stages, but what do people think about their potential at the next level? Also, are we still talking to the tough guard from Ohio?

As long as we don’t have to look at Three Rivers, Veterans Stadium, Riverfront, and the old Busch, I’m happy, lol. But, I’m with you on Wrigley. Great visual for the playing field, but the experience in the stands isn’t great. When I lived in the city, I could get up there easily. But from the ‘burbs, it feels like a burden to get in and out of there. I hope they updated the bathroom. The civil war era communal trough is hardly charming. I give Camden Yards tremendous credit for the change in the arc of stadium design.

I say this in all seriousness and without naïveté but I don’t see the need for masks or tests to even be a political statement, either way. If it is, it just exemplifies the divisiveness and dysfunction in the discourse amongst all citizens. If we grind every minutiae of life into whether it’s good or bad for a party and spin, etc., then we are getting away from rolling our sleeves up and solving the problem as has been our common trait for 240 years as a nation I say this neutrally. I have been thinking about the two party system. You could throw Libertarianism in there too. As an individual, like anyone, I have a long set of beliefs. They don’t fit into a nice package within either party. The parties each have a platform with diverse topics. Of course, I am not necessarily going to line up with the same party on the entire set of highly diverse topics. And then even within each party, there are pretty diverse wings, which further complicates it. If you had 2-3 more parties and then voted in the candidate with the plurality you might get interest from more people who are presently turned off by all parties. I suppose the downside is that, with so many parties, you’d have more groups of losers kind of like in a primary instead of a binary result. But a loss might not feel as bad for a variety of reasons, but you could probably live with more aspects of the winner. In my view there is a common sense middle sensibility. These are good minded people who want what’s best and have no ill motives. The problem with our system is the money flowing from special interest groups who often get political extremists churning. They dominate the landscape while the common sense middle—trying to live hard working lives and hoping for the best—are out in the cold turned off by the system catering to special interests, extremists, etc. The common sense middle has no need to micromanage day to day politics.

Is he ‘22? Interesting foray into the Chicago area. Archie recruited the state of Illinois at Dayton. I am glad we are working Illinois now. I wonder who is our lead recruiter in the area? Being one state over, Illinois is an important piece of the recruiting puzzle IMO. We’ve gotten some key kids over the years. Even aside from sports, a ton of Chicago area kids come to IU as it is. It all shows that the state of Illinois is an area where we have good potential to land talent.

With his dad being 6’3 and mom 5’8, you would think he’s got a good shot to be 6’2 at the least. But genetics is complicated so you never know. As for Thornton vs Braden, I have no problem taking both. It can work out. Seeing the floor and ball handling are always premium skills.

Steve Garvey tried to cultivate a Boy Scout image when he was a player but he’s been a disaster off the field. Deadbeat. Huge debts. Cheated on his wife. Kids out of wedlock. The number of kids he has is in Cromartie territory (the defensive back who hilariously tried to rattle off his kids on Hard Knocks).

Happy birthday, Rico. You’re a good age.

Good article. It explains the science behind it, which I’ve been wondering about.

It reminds me of the Bobby Bonilla contract. He gets over a million year until he’s over 70. That’s security.

Regarding Reagan, he flipped the entire mentality and outlook of the country. I think he used the famous word malaise. Jimmy Carter is a classy man who was very intelligent as a Naval Academy guy but leadership was an issue and we got into a negative outlook. You had Vietnam in the recent past but in terms of negative mentality even more so Watergate, the pardon, OPEC problems, energy scare and of course the hostage crisis. I was a kid and even I was acutely aware of the negativity everywhere. Within that I thought 1976 was spectacular as the bicentennial and everyone rallied together that summer and year. But it ended up a blip in a bad decade. It wasn’t luck of the draw. Reagan literally had a recognition of it and a vision for flipping the script. Even if you don’t like his policies, credit is due in this regard IMO.

Congratulations! You can’t beat that.

I’m with you. I like talking to you guys about all this stuff as we all have a good rapport. Let’s be honest, this is a smart crew, far above average,. We don’t have to agree. Apart from this board, I feel like our parents’ generation could disagree pleasantly and laugh it off if need be. They were real adults. Now people get triggered easily. It’s both sides because extremists generate an agenda via social media or whatever. Having said that, back to our board, I think most posts in here have been within bounds but a few went off the deep end. That makes it tough on the mods who have shown good restraint and judgement in letting discussion flow until it gets to a point. Anybody here is reasonable but we can all have our moments, myself included. 2020 sucks and it’s a stressful time. It’s human to get riled up. I’d say if an of us get riled up we should try to back off. One thing that is hilarious is when two people can’t agree on anything relative to basketball, but then are two peas in a pea pod with some of the stuff in this forum. And vice-versa! It’s awesome when that happens. Rico, I agree with you. Ideally we could discuss the events we are all facing.