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Give me Liam, Fland and Queen and I’ll change my soiled underwear and call it a day.

15 hours ago, Indykev said:

kid might miss out on a school he really liked. If you are a staff do you tell another kid at his spot no? Its his life, I get it and he is a great talent but do you put all your eggs in his basket because he wants to wait it out until the end of the year? It would be hard for me to tell the 20th ranked kid no because you are waiting on one kid. Or you take a kid at his position and he crosses you off. Recruiting is a crap shoot anymore.

My gut says a kid this high will always have a place almost regardless. They’ll find a way to make room. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Well this is interesting… 🤔 

16 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

https://www.on3.com/college/kansas-jayhawks/news/kansas-freshman-marcus-adams-jr-leaving-program-requests-nli-release/

Freshman leaving KU even before s hool starts

That’s one worth saving the extra scholarship for.

are the other schools who recruited him before filled up?

Fine line between jumping in early to say earn that respect, and making your offer appear cheap.

20 hours ago, Coach Robby said:

Jamaal Davis that ended up at Purdue?

Dude you nailed it. Well done sir! Lol

There was a kid from I think Merriville (sp?) back in the early 90s that as a frosh and soph was a top 10 player in his class.

By jr year he dropped like a lead balloon. Senior year dropped even more. Wish I remembered his name. He was a 6’8” PF.

Can’t think of too many bad reasons to add someone who has one year of eligibility left into this years class and team

12 hours ago, Drroogh said:

Well people have been clamoring for a Sheehey type to get in the grill of the opposing team??

Oh lawdy I miss HIM

Two legit reasons to have and use silent commitments…

1.) Said recruit wants to go to School X out of state. Knows he’s going to deal with a lot of flack with his HS Coaches, some family, friends, etc. If they silent till late in the process, they don’t have to deal with the kick back for weeks or months. But they want the spot. Plus the school’s coaches don’t want the kid to experience the pressure. Silent commits can change just as commits do tho.

2.) Maybe a stud RB/LB recruit (example), has been told and agrees “you’re likely going to be a LB but if you are a RB it’ll be full back.” But his verbal might scare away another RB recruit they want as a RB. Silent allows to improve odds of getting both and keeps other coaches from using that players commitment as negative recruiting. In basketball maybe a combo guard who won’t be a pure PG, so keeping him silent helps to land the PG they want because the truth is they don’t see them both as pure PGs but the PG might feel they do no matter what they say. Plus in the meantime, they can really solidify the relationship with the PG and earn the trust so that PG truly believes them.

There are legit reasons both sides could value a silent commitment.

25 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

If Trey was being relied on to be a big part of the offense, I might agree...But he's not...

When he gets a good look from 3, he hits them...And if you rewatch the games...A lot of times Trey launched that floater because Trayce and/or Race, not to mention their defenders, were within 5 feet of the basket, and he couldn't get all the way to the hoop...In the open court, and when the lane was open, he can and did get to the basket...

He balances out what you and others view as his deficiencies with good, solid defense, shooting the 3s he gets at a solid 46% rate (with pretty good shot selection), and he doesn't turn it over (less than 1 a game last year)...

As for bringing in another guard...Why? There comes a time when Woody has to be committed to the kids that committed to him...Give them a chance over some kid who has a nice PPG average but shoots it close to 20 times a game (see Andrew Taylor...and no, that's not an exaggeration)...

The portal pickings are pretty barren at this point...Andre Curbelo, with all of his flaws, is the 3rd ranked PG left, if that tells you anything...

 

At this point I’d rather not take anyone else unless some stud enters that’s a luxury.

Any word on time table for announcement?

17 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Not arguing Univesities aren’t massively mis-managed state run organizations. Most govt run/state supported is horribly inefficient and mismanaged. I bet it would be a total mess at first…but if they decided to run it like a business then they would bring in much better people to run the ship and tighten things up and I suspect could be a very successful endeavor. As is they have little incentive because of the never ending govt subsides in the form of grants and student aid makes them basically fail proof because they will just lobby for more money and we all know the incestious relationship between academia and politics.

My dad was a CFO for a small university in Indiana…

he was a corporate guy for decades and at the end of career at 55 he gave 13 years to his Alma mater to dig them out of the red, into the black, built a ton of stuff and put the university in the best financial spot they’d ever been in.

he retired.

Next CFO came in who’s a University background type person within 3 years they’re a mess again financially.

His conclusion the university people just have a stupid financial mindset. They completely buy and spend anything they want whenever they want to with zero business or responsible mindset. They just burn thru money left and right. No regard for reason at all.

1 hour ago, Initial79 said:

Look, we have the other thread but I’m telling you guys this is clear. Even people like Ant Wright are like WTH on Twitter right now. 

I was very confident Ledlum wanted IU and everyone else too. I even made that call clearly. He was 99% in. Almost didn’t do Tennessee visit. 

He does and bam. you tell me what flipped him. No, it wasn’t under the table payments or play style. He is too smart for that. He liked all they have to offer athletes more. It is impressive.

FYI.. they had a huge orange and white game that weekend and I happened to be in Knoxville. The whole freaking city was going. (good football team and campus life around football and fyi… he almost chose to play football instead in college.)

then, I could see him and Knecht talking at the game. “IU? - “I loved it but man, but this is different. IU is very nice and better than where either of us came from but not this.”

oh… they also have been better than us for years now in the court.

we can win head to head with these schools once results are consistent. We can’t right now when we don’t have anything major to offer. The package is not that nice competitively. Don’t believe it or do.

Reality is as some have said, you would chose the nba coach, the history, the top college town etc. they are not you. Why do you think there has been an arms race to make everything crazy nice for athletes at these schools? 

lastly, you think this hurts BB. It kills our football. 

As a UT football and IU Hoops fan Knoxville is an AWESOME area and their fans are amazingly passionate and they SPEND MONEY and ATHLETICS.

1 minute ago, dgambill said:

So you are saying IU did a half a$$ job like 4 years ago when they renovated locker rooms, cook and assembly hall? The players dorms look like luxury apartments. I’m sure say Alabama football has nicer but I find it hard to believe after all that was done we are top 10%.

IU’s facilities are SO much better than they were.

IU’s faculties are far from among the top facilities in the country.

Just now, tdhoosier said:

Sports fans are the biggest a-holes that exist. They don’t see things objectively, their expectations aren’t realistic, they say stupid crap in the heat of the moment and they place blame anywhere they can assign it.  

Every fanbase that I’m a part of has these fans. Every one. Our fanbase is just bigger, thus it’s magnified. UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. all deal with this to varying degrees. 

My UT Volunteer fanbase is as nuts as any in the country. We struggled so similarly to IU in respective sports with similar all time tradition and expectations.

Their fanbase and boosters refused to give up on the expectations and kept pushing thru coach after coach and poor department management. And it APPEARS they’ve finally found their man who can get them there.

IU will never get there if the fanbase lowers expectations. That’s when it’ll be over. IU fans must stay full blown demanding to get us back. Period.

20 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I am one of the older generation who has seen the greatness of IU basketball. Part of the problem is our expectations are still the same as when we had one of the greatest coaches of all time.  College basketball world is a lot different and today's kids has way more options than the kids of the 70's and 80's did.  Recruiting was more regional back then and RMK could pretty much get the best players from Indiana, Ohio and Illinois. Today those kids will look at the whole country as possibilities over just their region.

 

 

The region has more than enough to take care of a historic program, with a gorgeous campus, solid facilities, etc. there’s enough here to sell if the right coach is selling it. There are programs that has certain perks that have faded away (Notre Dame used to get any too Catholic in America for example, Nebraska had a system under Osborne that fit perfectly with the beef fed giant linemen that locally they’d develop. The option doesn’t work really anymore.)

IU is different. IU is more like when Bama was down in the 90s in football. They were a sleeping giant because they had plenty of talent around them and a historic program to sell. They filtered through coaches until they found Saban. But they’ll be good after him also because the fanbase, facilities and history support it. It can be sold. So can LSU, USC, etc in football.

IU might not get back to to as many conference titles in a 20+ year stretch as under Knight. But it is one that can yearly be in the top 5-15 and fighting for Final Fours and BTT’s annually.

If Crean of all people could get us to where he did as such a below average coach, there’s a coach out there that can do a heck of a lot better then he did at IU.

AJ Guyton belongs on the list. I’m 46 and I still remember how every IU fan was utterly mind blown as he got going. It wasn’t just the stats, it was clutch shots, poise, etc.

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

They also picked up Noah Reynolds, 6'3" 195 PG from Wyoming.  His assist/to was bad but he was their leading scorer when he played. Apparently he suffered 3 concussions last year and they shut him down in early Feb. Peoria IL native.  Wisconsin could have a different look next year with Reynolds, Essegian, Storrs, Wahl and a typical WI big. Those 4 can all score. Maybe they'll win you over.

Neva…

I was born and raised a Hoosier and they don’t get it here…

3 hours ago, Lurker said:

Wisconsin picks up AJ Storr from St Johns.  6'6" SG that averaged 8.8 ppg as a freshman. 40% from 3FG. 4* recruit from IMG originally committed to ILL.  Says IU and Michigan also reached out.

Living in WI this IRKS me lol

i raised my son well though. He got a 36 on his ACT and never even considered Wisconsin for college and we live here 💪🏻

6 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said:

Wow! I didn't realize he will be spending so much time in Tennessee.

I found this on BTB..."Ledlum will officially visit Tennessee beginning Thursday evening through Saturday, Andrew Slater of Cerebro reports. Then he’ll visit St. John’s on Sunday."

Are we out of it for him or not officially yet?

8 hours ago, SawatchHoosier said:

I get spanked twice a week still...

Well…if she’s hot and into that…

suck it up and learn to love it. 😎

8 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

He visited IU this past summer 

Very interesting 

35 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

 

That’s me!!!

No good on the info