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Where is that at? Been to Seymour quite a bit over the last few years for sporting events and never knew this existed. Definitely want to check it out my next visit.

I'll take Merle over any country musician, and Mama Tried was his best.

I tried to upload images from all ,my marriages and got a 'file size' error.

You know. It entered my mind to post this for you, but since I already got a jab in a post in the NBA thread today, I didn't do it. And, I must say, it's a lot funnier coming from you.

Must...........defend.........Paul Geo....gasp.....rge.........until........death....

Even looking beyond the NBA, basketball needs something to energize the moment. Why do people that would not miss a regular season UNC/Duke game with Dickey V screaming on the mic, not watch the conference tournament championship of the Patriot league? Even with my favorite team, IU, there is a huge difference being in Assembly Hall than there is watching it on TV. Basketball on TV needs something artificial to build the tension, at least for me. By contrast, While I was supposed to be working yesterday afternoon, I was instead riveted to the TV following the Reds/Braves scoreless marathon. Even without fans, I found the action to be just as intense as it would have been if the stands would have been full. Basketball, not just the NBA, does not do that for me. Your point on the NFL is valid as it relates to impacts on the game. But, I was talking more in terms of viewability. For me, the lack of a crowd does not impact my viewing of the NFL. it does impact my viewing of the NBA for the reasons stated above.

Congrats on sticking with it. I started Corona determined to walk the soles off my shoes. I did great for 3 weeks, and then fell totally off to doing nothing.

For me, basketball has been the most difficult to watch without fans among the major sports (sorry, hockey, you never connected with me). Basketball just seems to lose more than baseball and football. That could be contributing to low ratings, because I know it makes a difference with me. There just is no energy at all. And, basketball needs energy. I've found football to be the easiest to watch. Honestly, I'm not really missing the fans there at all. With baseball, you get the constant reminder there are no fans because with every pitch you're seeing the seats behind home plate. Throw in foul balls and you are fully aware the stands are empty. With football, you never see the fans during the action, unless it's something like a Lambeau Leap after a touchdown.

If Vic would come out and say he's leaving because Pritchard drafted TJ Leaf over Tim Priller, I would understand that as well.

Admittedly, I am going to be pro-management most of the time. it's just who I am and how I see things. In this particular, case, I don't see Vic's actions to be a betrayal of the Pacers, or even Pacers fans. This bothers me more as a Hoosiers fan than it does a Pacers fan. It feels a little more personal than something like the PG13 situation because Vic was a Hoosier before becoming a Pacer I keep asking myself, would Cody do this. Or, would Yogi do this. I realize they haven't achieved what Vic has achieved, but at the same time, I like to believe (and maybe I'm wrong) that each of those guys would take some sort of hometown discount to get to play in Indiana long term. I always though Vic would as well. And, yes, hometown discounts do occur on occasion.

Total deaths in Indiana - 3,405 Percentage of deaths by age group 00-19: .1% 20-39: 1.1% 40-59: 7% 60-79: 41% 80+: 51% https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/

That wasn't very nice of you to wish Fran a happy birthday, but delete the part about it being Steub's birthday too.

When you let people in your ear, it's who you become as well. We all have the ability to choose our own path, and even though we let people guide us in a direction, it's still our choice.

Since I know many don't like to open links, here is another excerpt from the Forbes article. Once again, I've highlighted what I personally believe to be key points. 1. The number of confirmed cases Late last month, the United States reached what CBS News called a “grim milestone,” topping 6 million confirmed Covid-19 cases. The number, compiled by Johns Hopkins University, is both accurate and misleading. The key word here is “confirmed” cases (positive tests), which pundits and the public often confuse with the number of actual Covid-19 infections. The latter figure is much, much higher, according to researchers. In July, a study from MIT concluded that the number of Covid-19 cases could be 12 times higher than reported. Further, recent scenario planning from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) included a “current best estimate” that 40% of people infected with Covid-19 are asymptomatic and, therefore, unlikely to be screened or counted among the population of confirmed cases. Based on serological testing data and this new research on asymptomatic carriers, health experts estimate that tens of millions of cases still have not yet been recorded. That’s a major problem, one that’s proving hazardous to our nation’s health. Knowing the actual number of infected individuals, and whether the rate is increasing or declining, helps health experts predict pending hospitalizations and deaths. The true number also tells officials whether the nation is effectively containing the virus or on the brink of disaster. The issue with the more commonly cited statistic of “confirmed cases” is that politicians and news outlets use it as a surrogate for actual cases, tethering Americans to a distorted view of the pandemic. There’s a huge difference between confirming 6 million cases and dealing with the reality of 20, 30 or 40 million Americans who may have been infected with the coronavirus. Six million may be an accurate statistic, but it fails to reflect the real rate of transmission, and it helps to explain the ineffectiveness of public health policies to date.

While we're discussing the link's @mrflynn03posted, let's not overlook the one from Forbes. I've copied an excerpt below and highlighted some key points.. 3. The case fatality rate of Covid-19 Through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, humans have become fairly good at detecting threats. Most people know to avoid things that slither, sting or snap their jaws. But when it comes to invisible enemies, like viruses, humans have to rely on science to understand how deadly they may be. There are a number of different ways to measure the severity of a viral threat. One of those measures, the Case Fatality Rate (CFR), is based on factual numbers but is both inaccurate and misleading. It’s derived from a simple equation: the ratio between confirmed deaths (based on death certificates) and confirmed cases (based on positive Covid-19 tests). The CFR is only as accurate as those two data points. Since the number of cases is grossly undercounted, the mortality rate is significantly overstated. Previous estimates have placed the mortality rate as high as 4% but, with more frequent testing in recent months, that number has declined. The current mortality estimate is closer to 3%. Even that lower number assumes there have been fewer than 7 million U.S. cases and that asymptomatic people are all being tested. Neither assumption is possible. In fact, worldwide mortality from the coronavirus could be as low as 0.3%, based on highly controlled data from Iceland. What’s the point? A ten-fold difference (3% versus 0.3%) is both massive and highly consequential. Officials use mortality rates to determine the most appropriate response to infectious diseases. Ebola, for example, kills 50% of the people it infects on average, which is why the doctors who treat it wear hazmat suits. Seasonal flu, meanwhile, only kills around 0.1%. Thus, there are no public lockdown orders during flu season. In fact, half of all Americans don’t even bother getting vaccinated. Though the exact mortality rate of the coronavirus isn’t yet known, it is unlike Ebola and influenza in one important way: They are both “equal opportunity killers,” posing a relatively equal threat to the youngest and oldest populations. Not so with this coronavirus. Covid-19 spares approximately 99.99% of people under 24. By contrast, it claims 35% of people 85 years or older, the majority of whom have at least one chronic illness. Therefore, focusing on just one number—an overall mortality rate—does no one any good. Using it, policymakers have implemented a one-size-fits-none set of public health measures that over-restrict younger people who are relatively safe and under-support those at gravest danger, all while reaping economic and societal damage on all Americans. Had health experts and lawmakers made decisions based on mortality by age and existing health status, they might have adopted a segmented national health policy, one designed to save the most lives possible without inflicting undue psychological harm on those who are at minimal risk. Instead, they acted on the wrong set of data, underscoring a dangerous truth: Statistics can be both factual and misleading.

New York Times article on Sweden's current success as the rest of Europe relapses. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vilified-early-over-lax-virus-strategy-sweden-seems-to-have-scourge-controlled/ar-BB19xtbp?ocid=msedgntp

The Jaguars.

I like that, especially if the Kings would thrown in Yogi. I doubt he would complain about being a Pacer.

Loved Vic at IU. But, if he's pulling crap like this after everything both the City/State and the Pacers have done for him, well, then I'm not going to be the same fan I was before. He would never become the 'celebrity' he did if OKC had traded him anywhere other than Indiana. It was the perfect storm for Vic and now, after a bit of adversity, it seems as if may be turning his back. Not cool.

This is a site I check every day. There is a specific graph near the bottom where you can see hospital census. Totals have been increasing the last couple of weeks. As far as ICU beds and ventilators, the page only shows the current status. But, as I follow it every day, I can tell you the 13.0% for ICU beds in use was below 10% just a couple of weeks ago. And, the 3.2% for ventilators had gotten as low as 2.1% not that long ago. https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/

Hospital census, ICU usage, and ventilator usage are all inching up in Indiana.

The Lakers or the Heat? Whom to root for. That's a toughie. I got it. I just won't watch! That was easier than I thought.

Someone will call their bet at some point. And, whoever does it is probably not someone that the other patrons will want to see that way.

This is an interesting story on how the pandemic is impacting nature around us. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/25/us/sf-birds-pandemic-singing-trnd/index.html