Hoosier51 Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, dgambill said: With an undersized center. Honestly we got better once we pulled Trayce out on the floor and ran the pick n roll and got him out of simply trying to post bigger guys. Yeah and once the Hoosiers started doing that Trayce started playing better,which has also coincided with him moving up some draft boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 I really think it’s being overstated how bad the big ten was in the tourney this year. Here’s a summary of each team: Wisconsin - 3 seed, R32; underperformed by 1 game. Really shouldn’t have been seeded that high, had mediocre efficiency metrics for a 3 seed Purdue 3 seed, R32; met expectations. With the way the bracket shook out, you could argue they underperformed. But St Peters has shown they’re no fluke. Illinois - 4 seed, R32; although according to the seed line, they should make the S16, they had the worst possible 5 seed in Houston. According to efficiency metrics, Houston should’ve been a 1 or 2 seed. I’d say they met the tourney expectations, and just got a really bad draw. Iowa - 5 seed, R64; underperformed by 1 game. Seems worse than that since they were a popular pick to make a deep run Ohio St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan - 11 seed, S16; exceeded expectations by 2 games Rutgers/IU - play in 11/12 seeds, R68/R64; grouping IU and Rutgers together since both were in the play in games. Play in games are supposed to be close to a 50/50 matchup, so you’d expect 1 of 2 teams to win. Combined met expectations. So based on the seeds the big ten got, it basically matched expectations with a few higher seeds underperforming by a game, Michigan over performing by 2 games, and everyone else doing exactly what they were supposed to based on the seeding. The big ten just didn’t have a top tier team this year, even though Purdue looked like they were going to be early in the year. There was just a lot of depth in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 These two teams combine to play one guy over 6'8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kdug said: I really think it’s being overstated how bad the big ten was in the tourney this year. Here’s a summary of each team: Wisconsin - 3 seed, R32; underperformed by 1 game. Really shouldn’t have been seeded that high, had mediocre efficiency metrics for a 3 seed Purdue 3 seed, R32; met expectations. With the way the bracket shook out, you could argue they underperformed. But St Peters has shown they’re no fluke. Illinois - 4 seed, R32; although according to the seed line, they should make the S16, they had the worst possible 5 seed in Houston. According to efficiency metrics, Houston should’ve been a 1 or 2 seed. I’d say they met the tourney expectations, and just got a really bad draw. Iowa - 5 seed, R64; underperformed by 1 game. Seems worse than that since they were a popular pick to make a deep run Ohio St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan - 11 seed, S16; exceeded expectations by 2 games Rutgers/IU - play in 11/12 seeds, R68/R64; grouping IU and Rutgers together since both were in the play in games. Play in games are supposed to be close to a 50/50 matchup, so you’d expect 1 of 2 teams to win. Combined met expectations. So based on the seeds the big ten got, it basically matched expectations with a few higher seeds underperforming by a game, Michigan over performing by 2 games, and everyone else doing exactly what they were supposed to based on the seeding. The big ten just didn’t have a top tier team this year, even though Purdue looked like they were going to be early in the year. There was just a lot of depth in the conference. The problem is... those were the expectations. And that isn't exclusive for this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: The problem is... those were the expectations. And that isn't exclusive for this year. Eh, I’d disagree that it’s a consistent issue. last year there were 4 1 or 2 seeds from the big ten, and then everyone but Michigan severely underperformed. 2019 had MSU in the final 4 and PU in the elite 8. 2018 Michigan made the finals. Point being, there’s usually at least one top tier team in the big ten, if not a few teams. That just wasn’t the case this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kdug said: Eh, I’d disagree that it’s a consistent issue. last year there were 4 1 or 2 seeds from the big ten, and then everyone but Michigan severely underperformed. 2019 had MSU in the final 4 and PU in the elite 8. 2018 Michigan made the finals. Point being, there’s usually at least one top tier team in the big ten, if not a few teams. That just wasn’t the case this year. 2013 is the last time I truly remember there being multiple top tier teams in the B1G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Houston taking some terrible shots down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: 2013 is the last time I truly remember there being multiple top tier teams in the B1G. I’d argue 2019, but mostly agree outside of that. Not unrelated, 2013 is the last time IU was an elite team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Kdug said: I really think it’s being overstated how bad the big ten was in the tourney this year. Here’s a summary of each team: Wisconsin - 3 seed, R32; underperformed by 1 game. Really shouldn’t have been seeded that high, had mediocre efficiency metrics for a 3 seed Purdue 3 seed, R32; met expectations. With the way the bracket shook out, you could argue they underperformed. But St Peters has shown they’re no fluke. Illinois - 4 seed, R32; although according to the seed line, they should make the S16, they had the worst possible 5 seed in Houston. According to efficiency metrics, Houston should’ve been a 1 or 2 seed. I’d say they met the tourney expectations, and just got a really bad draw. Iowa - 5 seed, R64; underperformed by 1 game. Seems worse than that since they were a popular pick to make a deep run Ohio St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan St - 7 seed, R32; met expectations Michigan - 11 seed, S16; exceeded expectations by 2 games Rutgers/IU - play in 11/12 seeds, R68/R64; grouping IU and Rutgers together since both were in the play in games. Play in games are supposed to be close to a 50/50 matchup, so you’d expect 1 of 2 teams to win. Combined met expectations. So based on the seeds the big ten got, it basically matched expectations with a few higher seeds underperforming by a game, Michigan over performing by 2 games, and everyone else doing exactly what they were supposed to based on the seeding. The big ten just didn’t have a top tier team this year, even though Purdue looked like they were going to be early in the year. There was just a lot of depth in the conference. The top four Big Ten teams lost to lower seeds. The brackets broke great for all those teams and they crapped it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoshenFan84 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 That there was a popped Achilles…. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, GoshenFan84 said: That there was a popped Achilles…. And it looked like the training staff was clueless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Kdug said: I’d argue 2019, but mostly agree outside of that. Not unrelated, 2013 is the last time IU was an elite team. That's what I've said all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, GoshenFan84 said: That there was a popped Achilles…. Yup. Mrs. Btownqb confirms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoshenFan84 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yup. Mrs. Btownqb confirms Did your wife want vomit like mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, GoshenFan84 said: That there was a popped Achilles…. 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yup. Mrs. Btownqb confirms Big blow headed into Final 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Only one made 3 pt by Houston?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, GoshenFan84 said: Did your wife want vomit like mine? Yes. Walked away, "yup that's an Achilles... have fun with one Hou AT" and went back to drinking wine and petting the puppy. Which is two of her favorite three hobbies... the other being bossing me around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: And it looked like the training staff was clueless Does Villanova not have a Dr Rink or TG on their bench? Looked like the water boy drew the short straw to attend to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: The top four Big Ten teams lost to lower seeds. The brackets broke great for all those teams and they crapped it away. The Big Ten was deep, but not strong at the top. #9 IU split with IL, PU & #5 OSU. Could have swept PU & OSU. Lost two to WI, but should have at least split & could have swept WI. As flawed as IU was, a few bounces the other way & IU could have been near the top of the B1G. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, btownqb said: 2013 is the last time I truly remember there being multiple top tier teams in the B1G. B1G had a lot of good teams this year, but no elite teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1215 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: The Big Ten was deep, but not strong at the top. #9 IU split with IL, PU & #5 OSU. Could have swept PU & OSU. Lost two to WI, but should have at least split & could have swept WI. As flawed as IU was, a few bounces the other way & IU could have been near the top of the B1G. And the tourney probably would have ended about the same way honestly for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, slojoe said: B1G had a lot of good teams this year, but no elite teams. I think that's closer to the rule, then not. And it's our fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoshenFan84 Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: The Big Ten was deep, but not strong at the top. #9 IU split with IL, PU & #5 OSU. Could have swept PU & OSU. Lost two to WI, but should have at least split & could have swept WI. As flawed as IU was, a few bounces the other way & IU could have been near the top of the B1G. I remember saying during the 2nd half of the Illinois game before Illinois ran off with it that IU had a shot to win the B1G. Then Northwestern happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Hoosier Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 How about Gillespie running over immediately to celebrate with his injured teammate. Good stuff right there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes. Walked away, "yup that's an Achilles... have fun with one Hou AT" and went back to drinking wine and petting the puppy. Which is two of her favorite three hobbies... the other being bossing me around! Say 'petting the dog next time'. Petting the dog sounds so much better than 'petting the puppy'. I'm just glad you clarified it was her that was petting the puppy and not you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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