rico Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Portland and Vegas have been the two western cities mentioned when expansion is discussed. Portland was easier to work into my divisions. Vegas would be a natural fit with Arizona and the L.A. teams, but that leaves San Diego as an orphan. Understood. I feel Vegas would be a better location. But I have also seen Mexico mentioned quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, rico said: Understood. I feel Vegas would be a better location. But I have also seen Mexico mentioned quite a bit. Whatever expansion might bring, I think MLB is due for some divisional realignment. The current setup is getting stale. Going to a geography based alignment just makes perfect sense too me. I realize that would make the DH universal, which i'm not wild about. But, all the coast to coast travel is just not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 For argument sake, let's look at a year where the Reds are playing the AL West. They would be playing a minimum of the following # of games in the mountain or Pacific time zones 15 games (3 each) at Padres, Dodgers, Giants, Diamondbacks, Rockies 6 games (3 each) at 2 of the following 3 (Seattle, Oakland, Angels) That's 21 games, more than 1/8th of the schedule for games that will not be starting at a fan friendly time for the majority of Reds fans. Switch those out with guaranteed games against teams in the eastern time zone and help build more natural rivalries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: For argument sake, let's look at a year where the Reds are playing the AL West. They would be playing a minimum of the following # of games in the mountain or Pacific time zones 15 games (3 each) at Padres, Dodgers, Giants, Diamondbacks, Rockies 6 games (3 each) at 2 of the following 3 (Seattle, Oakland, Angels) That's 21 games, more than 1/8th of the schedule for games that will not be starting at a fan friendly time for the majority of Reds fans. Switch those out with guaranteed games against teams in the eastern time zone and help build more natural rivalries. I am completely with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-expansion-examining-6-possible-locations-to-add-teams/ I've always thought Charlotte and Nashville would be ideal baseball markets. Hadn't really thought of Portland but makes sense. They support their Blazers well....and Oregon fans are rabid as well. They probably would really support a team. I can't imagine baseball not being in Oakland but that city/state needs to figure it out. Tampa fans have made it very clear they don't really care to have a team either way. Would love some other cities getting a team. Always thought OKC as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 If Charlotte got a team I think they should be named the Hornets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 To me I would rather see some contracting of teams over expanding because to me expanding only diluted talent even more. Teams like Miami and Tampa and Oakland should all me contracted because those cities don't deserve franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me I would rather see some contracting of teams over expanding because to me expanding only diluted talent even more. Teams like Miami and Tampa and Oakland should all me contracted because those cities don't deserve franchises. Florida is the third most populous state in the country. You have to have a team there. Add in the fact that the Marlins are one of only 6 teams to win multiple World Series titles in the last 25 years, and I think the argument they are not deserving a team is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Last season, Oakland drew more fans than White Sox Tigers Pirates Royals Orioles Rays Marlins Oakland also had a larger payroll than all of those teams plus the Padres and the Blue Jays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Florida is the third most populous state in the country. You have to have a team there. Add in the fact that the Marlins are one of only 6 teams to win multiple World Series titles in the last 25 years, and I think the argument they are not deserving a team is flawed. Well both teams are lucky to get 10,000 people a game to come watch. Most people in Florida came from elsewhere and are fans of other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, rico said: If Charlotte got a team I think they should be named the Hornets... I'd prefer Web... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 RIP Jerry Stiller "What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Don't know how I missed this but Pete's antics keep following him around... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/pete-rose-accused-of-using-corked-bats-by-former-expos-groundskeeper/1qfr05d4k0pz31699hjt9575oy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: RIP Jerry Stiller "What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for?" My all time favorite of his from that show. I think Phelps ended up with 17 HR and Jay had 300+.....there are plenty but this one remains my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: My all time favorite of his from that show. I think Phelps ended up with 17 HR and Jay had 300+.....there are plenty but this one remains my favorite. Absolutely. Its classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Absolutely. Its classic. So many elements of that scene. Kid is dead, Mom doubting he would work hard....all the while a guy from Queens is stewing over a bad trade and tells the owner of the Yankees he knows nothing like he's talking to a hot dog vendor. Part of the reason some New Yorkers I really love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 Love baseball....but if these guys (owners/players) want to argue about $ during these times before they agree to start season or not??? I mean 30 million people are unemployed, another 100 million are wanting to watch something sports related on tv....and you guys choose this time to has out $? I'm usually an ownership side guy. My understanding is ownership wants to restrict money paid to players this year based on reduced schedule. If that's accurate.....sorry owners. Pony up the cash, collect from your insurance companies under disaster and move along. Or just recover the $ in future contracts but please don't argue cash right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 Your opinion. Should the blown call that cost Armando Gallaraga a perfect game in 2010 be overturned? https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/ex-tigers-pitcher-armando-galarraga-wants-mlb-to-recognize-2010-perfect-game-overturn-blown-call/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Your opinion. Should the blown call that cost Armando Gallaraga a perfect game in 2010 be overturned? https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/ex-tigers-pitcher-armando-galarraga-wants-mlb-to-recognize-2010-perfect-game-overturn-blown-call/ I'm somewhat in agreement, but then wouldn't Cardinal fans have a case for overturning the 1985 World Series? What's done is done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 With the NL going to DH in 2020 (and probably permanently), it is time to play homage to one of the great moments in MLB history, the likes of which we will likely never see again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Here is the call in Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Blake Snell on playing at a reduced rate In later text messages with the Tampa Bay Times, Snell said he knows people will view the comments as him being greedy, but “that’s not the case at all” and his concerns are rooted more in the health and safety issues. So saying he won't play at a reduced rate, but he would play half a season at the full rate isn't greedy? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Blake Snell on playing at a reduced rate In later text messages with the Tampa Bay Times, Snell said he knows people will view the comments as him being greedy, but “that’s not the case at all” and his concerns are rooted more in the health and safety issues. So saying he won't play at a reduced rate, but he would play half a season at the full rate isn't greedy? Really? One of the golden rules. Never talk about $ with the public....just don't understand why these guys can't understand the Jeter way works. Offer nothing. In terms of the agreement unless pandemics were covered in some section of players contracts the owners to me are on the hook for the $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: One of the golden rules. Never talk about $ with the public....just don't understand why these guys can't understand the Jeter way works. Offer nothing. In terms of the agreement unless pandemics were covered in some section of players contracts the owners to me are on the hook for the $. Great article with the nuts and bolts of it "Player, Club or League and subject also to the right of the Commissioner to suspend the operation of this contract during any national emergency during which Major League Baseball is not played.” (emphasis added) Thus, when President Trump declared a state of emergency on March 13, 2020 in connection with the COVID-19 pandemic, Commissioner Manfred effectively had the right to suspend immediately all player contracts, including any payment obligations of the clubs thereunder, indefinitely for the period of time during which the state of emergency was in effect and games were not being played." Also... "With respect to player salaries, the MLB and MLBPA opted for a pro-rated approach based on the number of games actually played during the 2020 season. Under the agreement, each player is to receive a portion of his scheduled full-season salary based on the number of games actually played against a traditional season of 162 games." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 9 hours ago, 5fouls said: With the NL going to DH in 2020 (and probably permanently), it is time to play homage to one of the great moments in MLB history, the likes of which we will likely never see again. If the NL adopts the DH permanently, I've watched my last MLB game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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