IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, DC2345 said: I’d bet the GM will be Saturday if he isn’t the permanent HC. Please, no on Saturday being the HC. I make a huge push for Harbaugh or Payton as HC and have them have input on the GM they want to work with. Do this and Irsay goes back to just being the owner and let those guys do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I’d bet the GM will be Saturday if he isn’t the permanent HC. I was all for him earning the right to have a long term role, he just hasn't earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: I was all for him earning the right to have a long term role, he just hasn't earned it. How was that going to happen? This team isn’t in a position to succeed. They could have the greatest HC on the planet but with the current staff and QB situation it wouldn’t matter. He’s clearly had a positive impact even with the team getting demolished in Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Please, no on Saturday being the HC. I make a huge push for Harbaugh or Payton as HC and have them have input on the GM they want to work with. Do this and Irsay goes back to just being the owner and let those guys do their jobs. Payton will not be happening. I’m 100% confident in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, DC2345 said: How was that going to happen? This team isn’t in a position to succeed. They could have the greatest HC on the planet but with the current staff and QB situation it wouldn’t matter. He’s clearly had a positive impact even with the team getting demolished in Dallas. Last couple of weeks his game management hasn't been there. Also I am tired of hiring coaches and GM's who had mo prior experience in those positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, DC2345 said: Payton will not be happening. I’m 100% confident in that. Probably go to the Chargers if that comes open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: Last couple of weeks his game management hasn't been there. Also I am tired of hiring coaches and GM's who had mo prior experience in those positions I personally think he’s better suited to be a GM. There are plenty of former players who’ve had success doing that without prior experience. If he’s paired with a veteran coach like Harbaugh I wouldn’t mind plus he’s got insight into the players and their mindsets after coaching for a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I personally think he’s better suited to be a GM. There are plenty of former players who’ve had success doing that without prior experience. If he’s paired with a veteran coach like Harbaugh I wouldn’t mind plus he’s got insight into the players and their mindsets after coaching for a few games. I think the main thing he was brought in for is to let Irsay know what is wrong in the locker room. Also Irsay trust him on his evaluation of the players and who should stay or go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think the main thing he was brought in for is to let Irsay know what is wrong in the locker room. Also Irsay trust him on his evaluation of the players and who should stay or go. Which is why he makes some sense as GM imo if the pieces surrounding him help to make up for his lack of experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Which is why he makes some sense as GM imo if the pieces surrounding him help to make up for his lack of experience For me there is no way that Ballard should be back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: How was that going to happen? This team isn’t in a position to succeed. They could have the greatest HC on the planet but with the current staff and QB situation it wouldn’t matter. He’s clearly had a positive impact even with the team getting demolished in Dallas. Alright, what's gotten better? Our winning percentage has gotten worse, our offense still can't score over 20, we still get killed in the turnover battle. I like Jeff, but what can you point to that's he's actually done that says he deserves a really important job with an NFL team? Edited December 6, 2022 by KoB2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Damn New Orleans you give up 2 touchdowns in the last 3 minutes after giving up 3 points the first 47 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Damn New Orleans you give up 2 touchdowns in the last 3 minutes after giving up 3 points the first 47 minutes Mark Ingram running out of bounds was awful. I know he was hurt but he could have easily gotten the yard and still not gotten hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Alright, what's gotten better? Our winning percentage has gotten worse, our offense still can't score over 20, we still get killed in the turnover battle. I like Jeff, but what can you point to that's he's actually done that says he deserves a really important job with an NFL team? He's coached 4 games. 1-3 record with 2 of those losses being 1 possession games. He doesn't have a real OC or a quality QB. The OL has shown some signs of improvement when everyone was healthy in the first 3 games prior to Dallas. In the first half against Dallas the team was competitive but he's got a QB that loves turning the ball over and that's a Ballard issue because he keeps getting washed QB's and offensive players that aren't difference makers. I also don't necessarily think he deserves anything but I believe Irsay is going to let him have a job if he wants it. Plenty of other guys have gotten jobs they didn't "deserve" and it worked out just fine for their teams. Edited December 6, 2022 by DC2345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 54 minutes ago, DC2345 said: He's coached 4 games. 1-3 record with 2 of those losses being 1 possession games. He doesn't have a real OC or a quality QB. The OL has shown some signs of improvement when everyone was healthy in the first 3 games prior to Dallas. In the first half against Dallas the team was competitive but he's got a QB that loves turning the ball over and that's a Ballard issue because he keeps getting washed QB's and offensive players that aren't difference makers. I also don't necessarily think he deserves anything but I believe Irsay is going to let him have a job if he wants it. Plenty of other guys have gotten jobs they didn't "deserve" and it worked out just fine for their teams. I certainly understand all of the issues he's facing, but as much as those issues are all true he's also one play away from being 0-4. I was as critical as anyone of Frank and think moving on was the right move, but if Ballard got him a kicker to start the year and he didn't have a QB change forced upon him, he's at least 5-4 if not 6-3 when he gets fired. At the end of the day Irsay is going to do whatever he wants, it's his team, but I'm not going to be happy at all if Saturday gets a long term job with the Colts. I'm honestly not sure the NFL isn't going to make things very uncomfortable for us if it happens, and they would probably be right to do so. It's not just that Saturday has no experience, it's that he has very little experience and what he does have is awful and shows very little promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I certainly understand all of the issues he's facing, but as much as those issues are all true he's also one play away from being 0-4. I was as critical as anyone of Frank and think moving on was the right move, but if Ballard got him a kicker to start the year and he didn't have a QB change forced upon him, he's at least 5-4 if not 6-3 when he gets fired. At the end of the day Irsay is going to do whatever he wants, it's his team, but I'm not going to be happy at all if Saturday gets a long term job with the Colts. I'm honestly not sure the NFL isn't going to make things very uncomfortable for us if it happens, and they would probably be right to do so. It's not just that Saturday has no experience, it's that he has very little experience and what he does have is awful and shows very little promise. That’s why I don’t think he’ll be HC. I think he’ll be GM which won’t get near the backlash. John Elway and John Lynch are both examples of guys with no prior front office experience prior to running a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, DC2345 said: That’s why I don’t think he’ll be HC. I think he’ll be GM which won’t get near the backlash. John Elway and John Lynch are both examples of guys with no prior front office experience prior to running a team. So is Mike Mayok, which was a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: So is Mike Mayok, which was a disaster I was talking more about the backlash and the fact that there is more of a precedent for former players getting GM jobs without experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: That’s why I don’t think he’ll be HC. I think he’ll be GM which won’t get near the backlash. John Elway and John Lynch are both examples of guys with no prior front office experience prior to running a team. Did either of them have a train wreck experience as an interim coach directly before becoming GM? Sorry, I don't think there's really a comparable example of someone in Saturday's position getting that job. If he hadn't taken then Interim HC job then sure, but we can't undo that at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Did either of them have a train wreck experience as an interim coach directly before becoming GM? Sorry, I don't think there's really a comparable example of someone in Saturday's position getting that job. If he hadn't taken then Interim HC job then sure, but we can't undo that at this point. Closest example I can think of is Bart Starr. Retired in 1971. Coached the quarterbacks for the Packers in 1972. Went into private business for 2 years and was named head coach for the 1975 season. Coached 9 years. Was his own GM the first 5. Wasn’t very successful and had a losing record overall for his career 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 22 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Alright, what's gotten better? Their spot in the draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Can't believe the Titans fired their GM today. There had to be something behind the scenes that we don't know of because his record had been pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Can't believe the Titans fired their GM today. There had to be something behind the scenes that we don't know of because his record had been pretty good. Gonna replace him with Kevin Mawea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Gonna replace him with Kevin Mawea He has been the Colts assistant OL coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: He has been the Colts assistant OL coach Then he’s totally qualified to take the reins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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