Billingsley99 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Are Burrow and Goff the only 2 QBS taken in top 3 picks in the past 10 years that you can call hits?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Are Burrow and Goff the only 2 QBS taken in top 3 picks in the past 10 years that you can call hits?? If Goff is a hit... Cousins and Carr are fine QBs. I understand that wasn't the point you were trying to make, though. And to answer your question, I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: If Goff is a hit... Cousins and Carr are fine QBs. I understand that wasn't the point you were trying to make, though. And to answer your question, I am not sure. I just think you can get you guy if you really want to other than a top 5 pick or reaching. I had to stretch to get to Goff, maybe Lawrence some day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, btownqb said: I would take D Carr for the next 4-5 years over any QB in this draft, I believe. What is wrong with K Cousins? 20-9 33-7 35-13 26-6 30-10 those are his TD to INT #s since being in Minny. We were only going that route because the rest of the roster was so good, and Ballard built it absurdly quick. I have had no issue with any of this, or many of the moves we've made. I agree that finding "the guy" in the draft is the best route. That still does not mean THAT option is in THIS draft. Kirk Cousins has elite or quality assets at all of the skill positions, but everyone knows he has a ceiling that ends before the SB. If Mahomes or Allen were in Minnesota, they would be the SB favorites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Mahomes has Kelce and a blob of RBs and WRs Allen has Diggs, an average committee at RB, and a TE who catches some TDs and not much else Carr has Adams and Jacobs and a losing record. Cousins has Jefferson, Cook, and Hockenson and no one that believes they can get by the Eagles, Cowboys, or 49ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Mahomes has Kelce and a blob of RBs and WRs Allen has Diggs, an average committee at RB, and a TE who catches some TDs and not much else Carr has Adams and Jacobs and a losing record. Cousins has Jefferson, Cook, and Hockenson and no one that believes they can get by the Eagles, Cowboys, or 49ers. Those 3 NFC teams are the top ranked defenses in the league. Vikings also have an average to banged up O-line, and a porous defense. Edited December 13, 2022 by Steubenhoosier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Kirk Cousins has elite or quality assets at all of the skill positions, but everyone knows he has a ceiling that ends before the SB. If Mahomes or Allen were in Minnesota, they would be the SB favorites. The 49ers are the most talented team in the NFL. I think they can win the SB with Purdy at QB. Either way, none of this means the Colts should take a QB in the first round. I'd take Dak over most QBs in the NFL and he was in 4th rd. Vikings aren't that loaded. JJ is awesome. Cook isn't elite and neither is Hockenson. Bengals weapons are better than Minnesotas. If Vikings had Mahomes or Rodgers... they would also have 15-17 less million a year to spend, so I don't think you can just say they're the favorite then. I think the Pats won 6 SBs with a QB that wasn't on Manning, Mahomes, or Rodgers level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Last few days I have heard se draft experts and some of the are questioning this year's QB class even the top 3. They don't think any of them will be able to come in and start right away. If that is the case even if the Colts draft a QB in the first round they will still need to have a veteran come in and start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Last few days I have heard se draft experts and some of the are questioning this year's QB class even the top 3. They don't think any of them will be able to come in and start right away. If that is the case even if the Colts draft a QB in the first round they will still need to have a veteran come in and start. Should have already cut matt Ryan and saved, I think I heard 14 million next year. Instead, they are still starting him and seemingly trying to win. So stupid. The colts and Pacers are the worst tankers in all of professional sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Should have already cut matt Ryan and saved, I think I heard 14 million next year. Instead, they are still starting him and seemingly trying to win. So stupid. The colts and Pacers are the worst tankers in all of professional sports. I know KOB disagrees, but MR has made $290 million dollars in his NFL contracts alone, I simply don't see him not retiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Last few days I have heard se draft experts and some of the are questioning this year's QB class even the top 3. They don't think any of them will be able to come in and start right away. If that is the case even if the Colts draft a QB in the first round they will still need to have a veteran come in and start. And you believe the draft experts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 McShay's first mock draft Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern Everyone knows Indy needs a quarterback, but it shouldn’t be reaching for the fourth-best passer in the class at No. 7. I’m sure the Colts will attempt to move up, but let’s not forget about the other problems with this roster. You can’t blame all 46 sacks allowed (tied for the NFL’s most) on Matt Ryan’s lack of mobility, especially considering the offensive line’s 46.8% pass block win rate is dead last in the NFL. Skoronski might not have ideal length at 6-foot-4, but his quickness and technique pop on tape. Plus, he is a stout run-blocker, which would open things up for Jonathan Taylor. Skoronski could slide into the left tackle role and help fix a unit that fell off quite a bit in 2022.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, btownqb said: I know KOB disagrees, but MR has made $290 million dollars in his NFL contracts alone, I simply don't see him not retiring. Would we still take a cap hit if he walks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Would we still take a cap hit if he walks? Don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Would we still take a cap hit if he walks? He is guaranteed 12 million no matter what and had another 17 million if he is on the team in March. He also has some money guaranteed if he can't pass a physical and can't play due to injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: He is guaranteed 12 million no matter what and had another 17 million if he is on the team in March. He also has some money guaranteed if he can't pass a physical and can't play due to injuries https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/10/24/23421353/colts-salary-cap-implications-to-move-on-from-veteran-qb-matt-ryan-at-seasons-end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Would we still take a cap hit if he walks? https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/10/24/23421353/colts-salary-cap-implications-to-move-on-from-veteran-qb-matt-ryan-at-seasons-end 6 million dead cap would be the only thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 7:57 AM, btownqb said: Colts at 7. 2nd or 3rd in line for QBs. Still not sold they should take one. What should they do then? You surely can't think we have the QB of the future on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: What should they do then? You surely can't think we have the QB of the future on the roster. No I don't. Edited December 14, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 17 hours ago, btownqb said: I know KOB disagrees, but MR has made $290 million dollars in his NFL contracts alone, I simply don't see him not retiring. I mean I won't be shocked if he retires, I just won't be shocked if he doesn't either. It's a lot of money to leave on the table. That said, if we are saying to draft a QB that is going to sit for part of the season, why wouldn't we want Matt Ryan to be the guy he sits behind? You know going into that it's Matt's last year, he's got a lot to offer from the mental side of things to a young QB, and honestly when you factor in we are paying him regardless, he's cheaper than any other option that involves cutting MR and paying someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: No I don't. I mean I'm not opposed to the plan of taking a QB in Round 2 if we can't get Stroud or Young, or for whatever reason the GM doesn't think they're the guy. I will say, a couple of the guys I liked as guys not to take in the first round and develop have stayed in college, so that's a bummer in that regard for me (Penix and Nix) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 16, 2022 Report Share Posted December 16, 2022 Zach Wilson back as starting QB for the Jets. Mike White is ruled out for Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 17, 2022 Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 Heaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturalhoosier Posted December 17, 2022 Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, btownqb said: Heaven Plus sprinkle in 15 bowl games from today through 12/26. That's a ton of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 17, 2022 Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Naturalhoosier said: Plus sprinkle in 15 bowl games from today through 12/26. That's a ton of football. Let's do it. Gotta brisket going in the smoker tomorrow morning... I'll miss the middle game today, but I'm absolutely gunna be back for that snow game tonight! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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