Feathery Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know just giving you a hard time because I get this all the time No worries. I enjoy a good debate. Ultimately we all want IU at the top, just good debating on how to achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I’ve said this before, and I always get accused of being negative when I do, but our record is what it is. We can point to the close losses all we want and say what if, but they are still losses. We have some close wins too. We could just as easily be 7-10. That is equally true to our potential better record. In the end our record is what it is. No better. No worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cutter said: If and butts were candy and nuts we would all be happy The correct phrase is.... “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, By adding the extra 't' to make it 'butts', I'm not sure it has the same meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Parakeet Jones said: I’ve said this before, and I always get accused of being negative when I do, but our record is what it is. We can point to the close losses all we want and say what if, but they are still losses. We have some close wins to. We could just as easily be 7-10. That is equally true to our potential better record. In the end our record is what it is. No better. No worse. You're negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: You're negative. Just one of the “usual suspects.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Pretty sure our biggest gripe is shooting and he's possibly dressing tomorrow. We shall see. What does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: Agree...because in 5-6 years when we are in the same place we are now and spinning our wheels and barely making tournaments there will be people saying we are so close and others saying it isn’t good enough..with Crean and Archie no one is emotionally invested in them...Alford would be painful decision for many. It will be like that if we keep making changes every few years. I see why people complain this far into his time here complain but what hurts is when fans start complaining in year 1 or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: It will be like that if we keep making changes every few years. I see why people complain this far into his time here complain but what hurts is when fans start complaining in year 1 or 2 Losing 12 of 13 in year 2 with zero adjustments will do that to folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, BDB said: What does this mean? That Stewart might dress tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: That Stewart might dress tomorrow I’m excited to see him if he does. I won’t expect too much too soon though. I think he will contribute long term for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Parakeet Jones said: I’m excited to see him if he does. I won’t expect too much too soon though. I think he will contribute long term for sure though. Me to but I hope people are not expecting him to come out and hit 4 3's in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, dgambill said: Agree...because in 5-6 years when we are in the same place we are now and spinning our wheels and barely making tournaments there will be people saying we are so close and others saying it isn’t good enough..with Crean and Archie no one is emotionally invested in them...Alford would be painful decision for many. 20 years ago, I would have been happy with Alford as the successor to Knight. But, the reality is. He is a mediocre coach Our fan base has extraordinary expectations Alford is, frankly, arrogant, and somewhat of a jerk. I would not end well. And, as you mentioned, when the time came to let him go, there would be a significant portion of the fan base that would be very unhappy about it, despite the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: The correct phrase is.... “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, By adding the extra 't' to make it 'butts', I'm not sure it has the same meaning. Lol ooops so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: What I am trying to say if Archie can fix that problem then we really aren't far away. Sure...we wouldn’t be having this discussion if he could fix it. We are here because he hasn’t fixed it for 4 years. Imo the only thing that can save Archie is our guys...a couple guys on the team just realize they are pi$$ing away their chance of a lifetime and turn things around...but it won’t be anything Archie does..it will be the players. I’m tired of this discussion...I’m going to show my self out...maybe at the end of the season I’ll have enough energy to resume it. Nothing has changed with this team in 4 years...nothing except the excuses. Need to change culture, need healthy players, need to get rid of bad kids/need his players, need better shooters, need to hit more free throws...what I see is a coach that needs a lot more talent...because he can’t seem to carry his team/coach them to wins...consistently. Where will the talent come from. I like the transfer he brought...I like the new recruiter he brought in...but I’m afraid the talent will come a little to late because he can’t win enough games to keep him here long enough to bring in said talent. Honestly I don’t care for his brother in Arizona and I think Archie is like him. With great talent Sean wins...but I just don’t see him raising the level of his kids play when he doesn’t have a big talent gap. I don’t think Archie will ever have said gap in the B1G so I don’t think he will win the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: That Stewart might dress tomorrow https://media.giphy.com/media/WU62UnbHDjYvdXAYIR/giphy.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: Losing 12 of 13 in year 2 with zero adjustments will do that to folks. Yep...look at Cal....he has won NC, multiple final fours so on and so on and he has this horrible stretch of ball and they want him fired....few if any coaches can survive the losing streak Archie had....It’s a testimony to our loyalty that he has any fans left at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: https://media.giphy.com/media/WU62UnbHDjYvdXAYIR/giphy.gif Don’t worry...I can’t embed gifs either...dang us old people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 20 years ago, I would have been happy with Alford as the successor to Knight. But, the reality is. He is a mediocre coach Our fan base has extraordinary expectations Alford is, frankly, arrogant, and somewhat of a jerk. I would not end well. And, as you mentioned, when the time came to let him go, there would be a significant portion of the fan base that would be very unhappy about it, despite the results. I really thought that Dakich would be Knight's successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: I really thought that Dakich would be Knight's successor. I always did too. I’m not going to re-write history, when he was an assistant here I kind of hoped he would like Izzo following Jud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, rico said: I really thought that Dakich would be Knight's successor. Well, looking at what I posted, I would actually only have to change one word. He is a mediocre coach Our fan base has extraordinary expectations Alford Dakich is, frankly, arrogant, and somewhat of a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 I hope people don't expect Stewart to come in and be the answer to all of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Well, looking at what I posted, I would actually only have to change one word. He is a mediocre coach Our fan base has extraordinary expectations Alford Dakich is, frankly, arrogant, and somewhat of a jerk. I think somewhat is not needed...they both are a jerk plain and simple from all I’ve seen and heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Well, looking at what I posted, I would actually only have to change one word. He is a mediocre coach Our fan base has extraordinary expectations Alford Dakich is, frankly, arrogant, and somewhat of a jerk. He might not have turned out that way if he had remained at IU under Knight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, dgambill said: Don’t worry...I can’t embed gifs either...dang us old people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: I hope people don't expect Stewart to come in and be the answer to all of our problems. What....IU fans have unrealistic expectations...never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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