BGleas Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, dbmhoosier said: He's an extreme introvert and doesn't come off as being particularly bright. You're better than that. Just stop it with the personal stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: "Whatever reason" Ummm his father and coach passed away unexpectedly so he took a mental break. I get that we are all pissed about today but we can have some empathy for a kid not much older than yours losing a parent. I'm not being critical of the situation if that is the reason. I'm questioning the situation based on the theory that he doesn't know the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Your post referenced needing 1-2 'guards'. I assumed that you did not mean they both would be PGs. Because, with Lander, we only need 1 PG for next season. As far as Stewart not being 'ready to play'. If he's not ready, it's intentional on his own part. There are a limitless number of athletes that have come back after a layoff and played their way through it to get in game shape. It's not always a smooth transition, but on a mediocre basketball, why not give it a shot. Mostly agree, except dealing with death can be terribly difficult - for some more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: Never said he would've been my #1 choice at the time. But now he's obviously way better than Archie. The problem with the Archie hire is that it was clear before he was hired that he never had the personality for a pressure cooker job like IU. He's an extreme introvert and doesn't come off as being particularly bright. And I never said he was your first choice. Im curious if anyone thought Holtman was a better choice 4 years ago and if so what was that based on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: You're better than that. Just stop it with the personal stuff. Bob Knight was an (edited). Did you have a problem with the many who pointed that out during his years here? Edit: Watch the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Your post referenced needing 1-2 'guards'. I assumed that you did not mean they both would be PGs. Because, with Lander, we only need 1 PG for next season. As far as Stewart not being 'ready to play'. If he's not ready, it's intentional on his own part. There are a limitless number of athletes that have come back after a layoff and played their way through it to get in game shape. It's not always a smooth transition, but on a mediocre basketball, why not give it a shot. Yea, I meant point guards. I was specifically referencing Lander and Phinisee. At this point, IU has two backup point guards. Archie has one year left to prove he can do this, if I'm him I don't feel comfortable going into next year with my two point guards being Lander and Phinisee, and I don't want to rest those hopes on one new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, southsidehoosier said: And I never said he was your first choice. Im curious if anyone thought Holtman was a better choice 4 years ago and if so what was that based on. A better coach then? No. A better fit for the job? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Bob Knight was an (edited). Did you have a problem with the many who pointed that out during his years here? Just stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said: I made this comment in the game thread, but can any older posters enlighten me: has this level of top-to-bottom competitiveness ever been seen in the B1G? I know we play like crap frequently but holy hell, the other teams are also really, really good. There were some really good league years in the late 80’s-early 90’s. In 89-90, as an example, seven of the ten (there were actually 10 teams in the Big Ten...LOL) teams made the tourney and IU was the 7th ranked BT team and we had 3 or 4 McDonalds All Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU878176 said: There were some really good league years in the late 80’s-early 90’s. In 89-90, as an example, seven of the ten (there were actually 10 teams in the Big Ten...LOL) teams made the tourney and IU was the 7th ranked BT team and we had 3 or 4 McDonalds All Americans. I believe BTN did a special about how stacked that year was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, BGleas said: You're better than that. Just stop it with the personal stuff. Are you sure he is better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: Mostly agree, except dealing with death can be terribly difficult - for some more than others. And, that's perfectly understandable. My point is more directed to the theory that Archie is not playing him because he does not know the system well enough. There has been ample time for him to learn it well enough to give us something. Sure, he'll be able to contribute more next year. But, that does not make this season a throwaway unless there are other things (like his dad's death) driving the reason for him not playing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, IU878176 said: There were some really good league years in the late 80’s-early 90’s. In 89-90, as an example, seven of the ten (there were actually 10 teams in the Big Ten...LOL) teams made the tourney and IU was the 7th ranked BT team and we had 3 or 4 McDonalds All Americans. 88-89 was the best I remember with two going to the final four UM and UI with UM winning it all. IU won the big ten that year and Iowa and Purdue was good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I have a feeling that Buckeye fans feel like they dodged a bullet 4 years ago. The roller coaster ride rolls on. Both Louisville and Ohio State got the better coaches. Kind of makes sense since they've been better programs the last few hundred years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Could've had Holtmann, Mack, or Underwood but of course Fred chose the runt. Look, stop childish, personal the insults. You are getting way too loose with the rules lately. Please, don't force our hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: 88-89 was the best I remember with two going to the final four UM and UI with UM winning it all. IU won the big ten that year and Iowa and Purdue was good as well. In 1979...7 of the 10 were ranked at some point in the season. Only 2 received bids to the NCAAT(The way it was back then). Sparty won the title. Impressive was that 3 Big 10 schools made it to the NIT FF(and by God that meant something back then). The only gimme was NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said: Maybe I didn’t follow him closely but I never thought he would have the success he’s having now. His kenpom numbers at Butler were pedestrian and he never made it farther than the sweet 16. I don't follow kenpom numbers but, his career numbers while at Butler was 70-31 for a .693 percentage. IMO, not too shabby..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, IU878176 said: There were some really good league years in the late 80’s-early 90’s. In 89-90, as an example, seven of the ten (there were actually 10 teams in the Big Ten...LOL) teams made the tourney and IU was the 7th ranked BT team and we had 3 or 4 McDonalds All Americans. There are many others but 91-92 was also something. 5 of the 10 teams made the tourney (two 8-10 teams did not get in), OSU won the conference with Jimmy Jackson, Funderburke etc., Michigan had the Fab Five, IU and Michigan made the Final Four, IU had 5 players average double figures and four of the five were burger boys while the fifth was Calbert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Is the post game thread supposed to be about who we hired as a coach a few years back? Damn fellas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Exactly what I expected. Slow start to get us into an almost insurmountable deficit, followed by a couple furious attempts to erase said deficit, and then a collapse near the end that I turn off b/c I’m so disgusted and have better things to do with my time. On to the next one. I’m not disgusted by our coach or any of our players, just a realist that realizes we are not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: Is the post game thread supposed to be about who we hired as a coach a few years back? Damn fellas... Do you want to talk about this game in the post-game? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lostin76 said: Exactly what I expected. Slow start to get us into an almost insurmountable deficit, followed by a couple furious attempts to erase said deficit, and then a collapse near the end that I turn off b/c I’m so disgusted and have better things to do with my time. On to the next one. I’m not disgusted by our coach or any of our players, just a realist that realizes we are not there yet. You need to take up ice fishing! LOL TBH, I have been that way(what you did) on the week-ends for quite some time now. Heck, if IU basketball was on during the warm months I would never watch a day game. IU football? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, rico said: In 1979...7 of the 10 were ranked at some point in the season. For comparisons sake, I’m pretty sure 12 of the 14 teams now have been ranked at some point over the course of this season and last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUguy Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, IU878176 said: There were some really good league years in the late 80’s-early 90’s. In 89-90, as an example, seven of the ten (there were actually 10 teams in the Big Ten...LOL) teams made the tourney and IU was the 7th ranked BT team and we had 3 or 4 McDonalds All Americans. I believe that either the 76 team or the 75 team had to beat Michigan, for the third time that year, in the Final Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, Parakeet Jones said: For comparisons sake, I’m pretty sure 12 of the 14 teams now have been ranked at some point over the course of this season and last. This year...10 have been ranked at some point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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