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31 minutes ago, IUJoe said:

Thanks.  Any idea if that could change if Boogie commits to us?

Relationships and FOMO are very powerful.  Hopefully Liam and Boogie put the full court press on him!

2 hours ago, IUFLA said:

Kansas still believes they have a shot at Queen 

I don't 🙂

Queen has many great qualities as a big man; Having "tremendous athleticism" is not one of those. Not sure how much effort that author put into the accuracy of the article.

1 hour ago, Danomatic said:

I guess that I should’ve been more specific. To further elaborate on what I meant to imply is that I’d love nothing more than for Woody to beat Cal out for a top level guard, projected to someday play in the league.

Well said. I'd also add, with NIL, we can now compete in recruiting with certain teams without having to play the bag game.  The recruiting game and power have shifted. Now is the perfect time to have someone like CMW as our CEO.

I'm actually hopeful the team pulls together and wins. 21-17 good guys.

Coaches may have given their final pitch to Boogie, but Liam McNeeley has not!  Make the call, and go get him Liam!!

2 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

It was McCully that was quoted this time 

Yikes!

1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Agree that we were never going to beat Michigan. Concerned that a player would openly speak out to the media about the confusion that was caused by the coaches decisions. Coaches are supposed to put all players in the best position to succeed, and at least one or some of the receivers sound like they weren't given that opportunity. Maybe the coaches do need to see the players in multiple situations, but they had two weeks of practice to try to figure this out. If the losing continues, it wouldn't surprise me to see more dissension.

That's a great point. Cam Camper showed major frustration when he was interviewed after the OSU game with play calling. To his credit, he didn't say anything negative.  Can't imagine he's happy at this point with the way the season has gone.  The entire situation is beyond frustrating. We better get a couple wins soon, or the wheels will fall completely off.

1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said:

From the article in the FW paper today, it sounds like it was a total mess Saturday. Interviewed receivers who were critical of the flip flopping of quarterbacks. Said that they sometimes wouldn't know who was going to be taking the snaps until they got in the huddle. Said that it became much more difficult to try to get into any rhythm with the constant changing. 

The writer quoted the coaches as saying that they wanted to see one of the two qbs step up, and that neither one did. Allen was quoted as saying they would have one going forward. The writer made the observation that this should have been done during the bye week....and I concur.

As I said, a total cluster.

I see what you're saying from a consistency standpoint, but as optimistic as I am, we were never going to win that game in Ann Arbor.  We needed to see both qb's in multiple game situations.  Bell looked for different things than Carey does. It's unfortunate neither qb separated themselves,  but then again, it was against Michigan's defense in the rain. 

Sorsby's legs and grit honestly would give him an edge in my book. Tayven has great arm potential, but he seems to preselect a receiver, stare him down, and throw it there whether it's the correct read or not. The Rutgers game should be the final game to determine permanent qb1 this season.

That being said, I don't know the dynamics of the locker room, and CTA can't lose the team to close the season or he's finished. Let’s hope one of the qbs has a great week and we smoke Rutgers.

DQ reminds me a little of Sean May after watching last night. Similar frame, hands, and game.  If we were to land him, he most likely would play Malik's role from last season as a freshman. Malik and Sparks would both be veterans and know our system much better. Let DQ learn, develop,  and get stronger/more explosive without asking him to be the focal point in the post as a freshman. 

39 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said:

Summers eve, makes me feel fine...

Wasn't there a song about that?

Not sure about a song, but there was a lovely discussion with a mom and her daughter walking on the beach. Always perfectly timed during ballgames. 😂

8 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Sagarin has us behind all four of those teams, plus NW. 

Good point. We'll find out what this team and staff have left in them.

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Nobody thinks we will have the talent level of UM but the discrepancy shouldn't be this different . Also I think it was more UM sleep walking through the first quarter that made our offense look better early.

It's not just the talent discrepancy of the starters,  it's the depth of talent. You're correct the gap shouldn't be as wide as it is, but that's the current situation.  And the penalties killed our momentum to end the first half. Easily could've been 14-14 to start the second half. 

Lucas is starting to look a little contact shy. Can't help but think running him between the tackles, at his size, has worn him down physically and mentally.

Michigan isn't a great measure of where we're at talent wise. Rutgers, Illinois,  MSU, and Purdue will give us a chance to see what we can do against comparable talent. Offense looked better early; that's my positive takeaway. 

I'm very interested to see what the new offensive approach will be with Carey. Michigan will be quite a challenge for his first game, but I'd really like to see how he can use what we currently have on the team. Turner between the tackles,  Lucas in space, and shots down the field to our talented receivers. Hopefully both QBs get an opportunity to show what they can do.

4 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said:

I find it interesting that ESPN covers UK but wouldn’t cover IU or others. It only annoys me because stuff like that is what can give UK edges in recruiting.

We need Fox Sports to do the same for IU/B1G.  ESPN is just promoting their product UK/SEC. Sad fact of the current sports world we live in.

1 hour ago, rico said:

I am hoping our offense shows up.

Our rapid 3 and outs put too much on our defense. Especially plays that have little chance of success (option). The defense has had some solid stops, only to be right back on the field in poor field positions.  That has to be demoralizing. The offense needs to give them support with some decent drives.

3 hours ago, rico said:

If we get to 5-7 I would call it a successful season.

Absolutely!!

3 hours ago, OLDIUFAN said:

Go Hoosiers'! I’m hoping you’re right! 

I'd like to say it can't get any worse, but we did barely squeeze by Akron!😅

With Fuente in position as an analyst, I feel like we have the best offensive strategists since Deboer. Carey knows who we have, what they can and can't do, and how our young qb's are progressing.  Not saying it will change overnight, but simply stopping some of the stupidity of the option and goal line cluelessness will help.

Having two weeks to overhaul should help. And Bostad's blocking philosophy should mesh well with Carey. Let Fuente add to what Carey has been observing,  and we have the best chance for success.

1 hour ago, Parakeet Jones said:

We have hired former VT coach, Justin Fuente, as an analyst. 

Pretty solid OC at TCU with Andy Dalton. Had some really good teams at Memphis. Tough following a legend at Virginia Tech.

1 hour ago, Drroogh said:

Saw some iron sharpening iron in there between Malik and Payton! Payton it seems could be more than just a butt warming the bench.

Payton moves better than I thought from Ball State videos. Our post options are numerous in terms of combinations and styles. 

This is a great question. Tayven has a ton of arm potential,  and has had some great drives. He also throws high frequently and struggles to make simple reads at times.

Brendan is more mobile and physical as a runner. He has a strong arm, but not quite as much zip as Tayven. I honestly think he was put in worse situations against OSU when they were being evaluated. 

Bell had stubborn support of his chosen QB1s. Bazelak was evidence of this. Hopefully coach Carey gives both qb's an honest evaluation, and both get opportunities to get prolonged chances to lead and learn from mistakes without the fear of immediately being yanked.

Both qb's have talent and potential.  Then we add in Dexter. I trust coach Carey to do what's best for the program this season, and also looking towards the future. He seems like a straight shooter that wants the program to be a success. I would think his input will be relied upon heavily as the program evaluates the current situation moving forward. 

7 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said:

Football drives the bus. IU will move on this one. Same circumstances 2-3 years ago they don’t but this is a new era. Don’t compare us with PUke either. This one is getting a lot of attention. 

Spot on. Better have our feelers out and be ready to overwhelm someone with cash ala Colorado and coach Prime. Invest or be non-competitive in the new B1G. Hiring a mid major coach and hoping they catch lightning in a bottle won't cut it. Have someone from Kelley School of business consult on proper investment parameters. 

No more option!

35 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Here’s my take on the current state of IU football. 
1. Allen is a lame duck coach but he’s going to stay in place for another year because of the buyout 

2. Tayven has had his struggles but Sorsby would too. They are RS Fr with an OC that isn’t putting them in great spots to succeed 

3. For example Tayven isn’t great at running option offense yet Bell continues to call those plays. He also tells him what reads to make rather than letting him make the reads. That’s just not a good recipe for success

4. The university doesn’t support football at a high enough level. That has to change if the program ever wants to have any level of consistency

5. IU needs an offensive minded coach that can put QB’s in better positions to succeed 

We need to pin this. Well said.  It appears our current president supports athletics more than prior administrations. Dolson has made good hires in other sports. Between B1G TV money and our NIL collective, we should be competitive in football  beyond what we've been in the past. Spend big next hire.

Next hire has to be an offensive mindset. Preferably a former OC or qb guru with an innovative game plan. If it's a defensive guy, please make sure they're willing to have an innovative offense. We need to spread with speed. Next coach needs to give Seth Littrell a call.

I really like CTA, and wish we could slide him over to DC and get a new leader. Won't happen, but that could be fun.