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Chemistry and some bad luck with penalties when he does make a play. He gets open some and Rivers goes somewhere else with the ball. Rivers has always liked to spread it around and that's what he's done this year. Luck on the other hand would feed TY all the time it's just a different thought process at the QB position. Plus TY doesn't fit the type of receiver that Rivers has historically targeted a lot so that plays a factor too.

So with Vic the only way they keep him is if they are willing to let him walk. If you keep him till the deadline and trade him the Pacers won't get win now assets in return. It will likely be young players or draft capital from a contending team. A non contending team won't trade for him. Would the Pacers trade him for that when they will likely be gearing up for the playoffs themselves? I doubt it. I still think the smart play is to trade him now but I do see the appeal of keeping him. I really don't know if Myles is actually on the block. I personally think the front office is very hesitant to move him but I could be wrong. The talk is that free agency will start 48 to 72 hours after the draft and only last about a week reporting to camp gets rolling.

A few notes that are going around on the upcoming NBA offseason. 1.) There is talk that Hayword might opt out of his deal in search of a long term deal. This could allow the Pacers to sign him to a deal and possibly work a sign and trade or make a deal with someone else to clear up the cap space needed. 2.) Vic is apparently happy with the Pacers and willing to stay but if he hits free agency the Heat are his preferred destination unless the Pacers pay up. 3.) The Pacers are looking at first round draft prospects which tells me they are looking at acquiring a pick which is not a surprise given the rumored deals that the Pacers could be looking at. 4.) I'd really like the to start hearing some rumblings about who the Pacers might be adding to their coaching staff. It seems like it's been really quiet on that front so far.

I would say Turner or it would have to be a 3 team deal but who know's. Time will tell if KP and Pritchard find a way to work out a deal. I'm not going to speculate on what players that Ainge might want because I have know clue.

Nobody knows if there could be any kind of deal since teams can't negotiate yet. It's just being said that there are people in the Pacers front office that have interest in trying to acquire him this offseason.

I just realized it's been discussed but the rumors about the Pacers interest in Hayword are starting to spike up again. I don't know what the Pacers would give up to get him because we can speculate that all day long but there seems to be a lot of smoke around Hayword and the Pacers this year.

Correct. McDermott is a much better comp to Robinson so I understood what Pritchard was saying. Leaf is a different type of player. Leaf is a floor spacing 4 that can handle the ball a bit.

I know there is a lot of Hayword to the Pacers talk but I don't think that it will happen this offseason. I do think he could sign here as a free agent when his contract is up next offseason. I actually think unless the Pacers get blown away with a trade offer they are going to run it back with almost the same roster. Of course there will be a few changes but after listening to new Nate and Pritchard I'm not sure if there will be any real big moves but we will see.

Don't put yourself in that position as a team and that won't happen. How many chances did they get to put themselves in the playoffs and failed. How many times in that game did the Giants have a chance to score another run. Well the answer is sveral. They K'd 12 times. Sorry but that wasn't all on the umpire. They also left 12 guys on base throughout the game. So yeah the ump made a bad call but the Giants had plenty of chances.

I just want to see some of those guys get some minutes. Shoot I'd like to see Bowen get brought back and given some run every now and then just because he is still young and has talent. I'm tired of seeing young guys brought in and they get almost zero real shot and then fans and guys on podcasts label them busts or bad players when they get a spot 5 minutes and don't look great. McMillan never gave some of those guys a fair shake to make anything of their careers.

One thing that I thought was interesting after listening to Pritchard on Dakich's show was that he is willing to lose a few regular season games to let younger players develop and that way everyone on the roster feels they can contribute and be ready for the playoffs. He even threw Alize Johnson's name out as an example. This tells me Pritchard was tired of drafting young players like Johnson, Leaf, Bitadze, Sumner, Holiday, and others and never seeing them get a real shot to play and get in a role that they can contribute. Holiday eventually did but only because of injuries. That's like I know people like to bash Leaf but I truly believe that his struggles were because of McMillan. He was a really good player at UCLA and then just never got a real shot to play. I've said it before but I wouldn't be surprised if he brokeout or at least found a role with this new system especially since new Nate wants to be a faster paced team.

That's why it's good that they have challenges now which I personally am fine with. I honestly wouldn't be upset if they allowed challenges on say 2 ball and strike calls a game too just to make managers be super selective on when they used them. I just don't think robo umps is a great answer.

I have to disagree on the robo ump calling ball and strikes. They've tried it in the minors and it wasn't accuarate and guys still argued. I also hate the K zone on tv because it isn't accurate on several ball and strikes throughout the game and makes the umpires look bad when the ball could've crossed a section of the plate but doesnt go through the box.

I have been in the trade Vic side of the isle for a while but I am curious to see how the offseason unfolds. If Vic and Turner are kept then I will understand why but it will be interesting to see if there are any moves to improve the roster with the limited cap space and no first round pick. If they run it back then this is what we as fans will be looking at. Brogdon, Oladipo, Warren, Turner, Sabonis, A Holiday, McDermott, Lamb, Bitadze, McConnell, Sumner, and Leaf. J Holiday, Johnson, Sampson, Bowen, and Mitrou-Long will need new deals if they are brought back. So I'm very curious to see what moves are made and how new Nate can make the best use of this roster.

Well players around the league tend to think highly of him as a coach. He's a players coach that's good with player development and putting teams in a position to win. As for Vic I don't think they really care what he thinks that much at this point.

It doesn't matter now but yes I do. I also have heard people that cover the Rockets talk about how parts of it are the same or similar but things changed because of Harden.

That's the reason that I always thought the D'Antoni interest was strange because of the amount of roster moves needed to fit his scheme.

I'm now curious to see how the Pacers go about filling out the coaching staff and what kind of offensive system this Nate goes with. I also am anxious to see what moves the Pacers make with their trades and free agency this year.

It was known that he was in the conversation and got a zoom interview but he wasn't thought to be a finalist so that was kept quiet.

The Pacers have made their hire. Nate Bjorkgen is the guy and been named the new head coach of the Indiana Pacers. He was the top assistant with the Raptors.

Giannis isn't getting traded this offseason.

The Giants won't move on from Jones yet. Plus they won't have the number 1 pick so they would be stupid to not put more weapons around him and build up the team. The QB's that I could see changing teams this offseason are Wentz, Rodgers, Darnold, Ryan, Minshew, Garoppolo, and Stafford. Their could be a few others as well. Will all these guys be on the move? No, they won't but they could be options.

According to Brian Windhorst the talk of Vic to Miami is most likely coming from Vic's camp because Miami has their sights set on bigger fish this offseason. That said other than a trade for Beal, Westbrook, or Paul I'm not sure what bigger name players will really be available.

That's what I've heard but I wouldn't do that.

It doesn't bother me at all. That said I wouldn't give up more than a 5th for him at this point and someone will give more than that and I don't think Ballard will trade for him this season unless they trade Jacoby which I don't see happening.