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6 hours ago, Inequality said:

Just like I initially feared when the rumor about Alford being first in line was kicked around. I remember saying to one of our members  in PM that I hope IU does the right thing and stays away from a nostalgic hire like Alford. Then Woodson was announced and like everyone else I was in complete shock. At least I had heard of Alford but Woodson? Wth…

I guess we have forgotten what Fred Glass said when he fired Crean? Crean who hit his ceiling and wasn't going to take IU far enough quick enough. One year removed from a B1G championship.

But Mike Woodson can take Archies generational talent who was already putting the team on his back and somehow get credit for the kid growing up and getting reps.

Trace was a beast in high school and was gonna beast no matter who he played for and you wont convince me otherwise. Thats what generational talent does. It gets shinier with age and experience.

Jalen who was brought here thanks to Hunter was so far ahead of any current IU guards it was clear as day. I remember mentioning that back then when a lot of folks was stuck on XJ. Jalen was gonna ball no matter who he played for and if it wasnt for XJs bad luck, would have not got the chance to show IU fans what he could do in year one. Again, super talented kid who was going places no matter what.

Love Leal and Galloway don't get me wrong. Kids that grew up wearing candy stripes. Love that! But be real, they aren't championship caliber guards. On one hand, glad to have em back. On the other hand, we need better guards talent wise that would effectively render Leal and Galloway as bench players. If we want to be really good. Thats what its going to take. Really good guards.

No offense to our older HSN members but I mean give me a break. Bring in a nearly 70 year old guy because the 70 year old crowd likes him for his jump shot while playing for IU in 1917 knowing he cant make it happen so you hire another semi retired college coach to train and oversee his operations. It was setup for failure from the beginning.

I mean really, tell me what Mike Woodson has done for the program for him to be worthy of hanging on to. Tell me something he has done better than Crean who was fired for not being good enough.

The longer they drag this along the angrier the fanbase is going to be and further back they set the program. And, the more disdain for Mike Woodson and anyone that supports him.

”Chill” and let Mike swing enough times he might get lucky just don't make sense to me. Train ol’ Mikey on IUs dime and hope the fans are patient. Man I just don't get it. It’s just basketball but the ignorance around the program is killing it. But, Im also near the point of giving up. It’s turning out to be a complete waste of time and energy.

Hopefully thats my last rant. Yeah I probably care about the program too much.

I am one of the older (if not the oldest HSN member). I was agnostic on Woodson's hire. What he did as a player is irrelevant (at least to me) when it comes to coaching. RMK wasn't even a regular rotation player in college. Probably saw more time than Leal did in his 1st 3 years, but not much). RMK turned out OK as a coach.

Personally I don't think age is a determining factor, one way or the other. Your recent post concerning Pearl is very accurate. He's older than May by a bunch, but he's proven himself to be a winner, as you said. I agree.

FWIW, I'm in the Dusty May camp myself. Not solely because he went to the Final 4 last year, but because he's built a very competitive team from nothing, at a school that many haven't even heard of. FAU is almost like the Hickory of Hoosiers movie in my mind.

I like Dusty's background. former manager for IU, worked his way up, paid his dues, he's earned a shot at the big time. And with his work ethic, I believe he'll succeed no matter where he ends up. 

I would certainly accept Dusty as a new hire, far more than keeping Woodson around. Because I've seen what comes with Woodson, and I'm not convinced it will get any better. His NBA experience has made him accustomed to loosing on a regular basis.  A.500+ record in the pros can get you in the playoffs. That is a helluva lot different than .500+ in college.