Boiler Sam

40 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said:

SMH 

You think 54-60-1 with no division titles and one playoff victory in 7 seasons is a good record ? 

 

9 hours ago, btownqb said:

That is an absurd opinion. His job is to put talent on the field, factually speaking, he's done that very well. 

The team and coaches win games, sorry for your confusion. 

Chris Ballard picked the team and the coaches.
 

His hires.

They have failed = he has failed.  

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

It's not. lol 

The facts are he does. Literally lol 

The only fact that matters is winning. He has not put together a team capable of doing that over his first 7 years. Literally.

Maybe he’ll finally turn the corner this year and win a division and/or a playoff game…

14 hours ago, btownqb said:

You aren't very good at this 

My graph is the only one that matters. His job is to build a winning team: he has failed, for the first 7 years. 
 

I’m sorry the facts don’t support your narrative…

On 5/10/2024 at 5:02 PM, btownqb said:

Then post it. And not an opinion oriented one. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/top-100-players-of-2023-nos-10-1-patrick-mahomes-justin-jefferson
 

Top 100 players, as voted on by the players. 

Here’s another one: 

13 minutes ago, btownqb said:

So coaching? Its not Ballard's part of the equation where the Colts organization was lacking. 

And that's laughable... there is no less than 6 on that roster.  

But I have a graph ! 

43 minutes ago, btownqb said:

ummm no, those two groups need to make it function. He did his job. The graph shows that. He's the GM, not the Head Coach. 

Having a top 8 roster of supporting casts over a 5-6 yr time frame is literally putting players on a team good enough to win divisions and playoff games. Like 100% that's what that graph tells you. 

Top 8 rosters win playoff games and divisions. He has failed to bring in winning players and coaches, at least thru the first 7 seasons. 
 

I can show you a graph showing the colts had ONE top 100 player last year. 

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

lol... as the graph shows, he does his part of the equation and does it well. Now that they hit a HR at QB--- that will be amplified. 

His “part of the equation” is getting players and coaches who can win divisions and playoff games. 
 

8 years in, he has failed. 

23 hours ago, btownqb said:

He isn't outside of the Top 10. 
 

 

 

Hopefully his record will reflect that at some point. 

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

He cannot go win the games for them. Absolute fact. He puts talent on the field, the graph confirms that. Argue a wall. 

If he’s drafted players that can’t win more than half their games, he has drafted mediocre players. Making him a mediocre GM. Not bad, not great. 
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PFF grades don’t win games. 

 

51 minutes ago, btownqb said:

That's actually the players' and coaches' jobs. He can't physically win them anything. Just firing someone because of other people not doing their job would be catastrophically stupid. 

It's just funny seeing all of your complaints dispelled. 

Who acquired the players and hired the coaches ? 
 

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Here's one...

@Boiler Sam another one.... 

His job is to put talent on the field, he does that. Clearly. 

Disagree. His job is to WIN division titles and playoff games. 
 

I should have said “yet another mediocre season” instead of “bad season”. My bad.

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Doesn't fit the bottom of the barrel narrative. 🙈🙈

Who said he was “bottom of the barrel”?
 

His record is the dictionary definition of mediocre. 
 

Year 8: time to win a division. 

On 5/4/2024 at 8:46 PM, FritzIam4IU said:

And I’m saying 10 teams could have drafted mahomes. So it wasn’t just the bears who passed on mahomes. 

None of that changes what I said, but agree to disagree. 

3 hours ago, btownqb said:

🙈🙈

 

And … zero division titles. 
 

No more excuses now. Time to win it. 

1 hour ago, FritzIam4IU said:

But there is no guarantee the Bears would have taken Mahomes if they didn't trade up

But they could have. That’s my point. Not doing so, and instead trading away picks that could have been Mahomes (and 2 other Pro Bowlers), to get Trubisky, is worse than what the Panthers did, in my opinion, at this point. If either Stroud or Williams become as good or better than Mahomes, then I will change my opinion. 
 

4 hours ago, FritzIam4IU said:

Again, I am not talking about who the teams that trade up didn't select, but rather who they did select and how much draft capital the teams moving up gave them.

I can go through each draft and find great players who weren't selected where they should have been in hindsight, from Mahomes, to Tom Brady to Puka Nacua.

Again, my original point was trading up for Trubisky instead of staying put and taking Mahomes was worse than what the Panthers did. But that’s my opinion, I understand that you may disagree.

If Caleb Williams or CJ Stroud end up being better than Mahomes, then I will change my opinion.

5 hours ago, FritzIam4IU said:

 

First off, I was pissed when the Bears did this trade, but 10 teams had the opportunity to draft Mahomes and didn't, so clearly most NFL people did not anticipate him turning into one of the best QBs to play the game. Despite the poor decision of Ryan Pace to pick Trubisky, the Bears did not give up nearly as much to move up the 1 spot as Carolina did to jump up and take Bryce Young.

Bears received/selected the following from the Carolina pick:

Darnell Wright, Tyrique Stevenson, Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, and the 2025 second round pick, and Tory Taylor since they traded back a spot to get Wright from the spot they had from Panthers.

 

I’d rather have Mahomes than all of those guys. But that’s just me. And then you could have also had Kamara and Mark Andrews too. 

19 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

When did the Bears trade with KC? I'm talking about who the Bears received in exchange for the #1 pick they traded with the Panthers not every player a team passed over in the draft. 10 teams could have drafted Mahomes in that draft.

Trading up and drafting Trubiski instead of staying put and drafting Mahomes is worse, in my opinion. 

39 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

The trubiski trade was stupid but the Carolina trade to bears is already way worse. Look at all the players the bears have already gotten from that trade and we still have Carolina’s second round pick next year. 

Pat Mahomes disagrees…

32 minutes ago, btownqb said:

They were so much more than.. "a QB away"

Especially if the jackass hedge fund guy is picking said QB…

19 hours ago, btownqb said:

It's absolutely wild man. Carolina is a joke. 

That trade may end up being about as bad as the Bears trade up for Trubiski. 

37 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Any pure shooter. I've only watched him play once and it wasn't the best competition. I'd say you can pick any of the following examples. Bigger Jordy Hulls, honestly Goode, for the slightly older crowd Hornsby....Matt Roth, Nick Z....any of those guys. 

Maybe others who have watched can help better than I. 

Cline, Loyer, Matthias… 😆

6 hours ago, btownqb said:

that's why Dallis is CB4, at best, anyways. 

I don’t think Jones, Brents, Kenny, and Flowers is a group you can go into the season with. 
 

Love who they did get tho. Replacing Kelly and Smith a year or so ahead of time, more speed at WR, and hopefully an edge who can get pressure when it matters. 

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

 

 

Kiper's observation of the Colts. 

 

I don't really understand the complaints about corner, and don't get knocking the draft because they didn't pick a position that HE felt they needed to upgrade. 

Jaylon Jones JUST turned 22 years old and started in 10 games last year, playing in all 17. 

Julius Brents 2nd rd last year, Kenny Moore is a Top 2-3 slot corner, Dallis Flowers comes back from injury, and with 20+ million in cap, I would be pretty surprised if they didn't sign, at least, one vet corner. 

Either way-- the corner room didn't need anymore youth. 

They must have something up their sleeve for a vet corner. You can’t count on Flowers being 100% back from an Achilles in year 1, in my opinion.