Boiler Sam

57 minutes ago, Indykev said:

he was trying to go anywhere to get purdue to pony up the cash.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but that was a different administration. Tiller and Keady couldn’t stand him either…

5 minutes ago, BADGERVOL said:

I don’t want Painter but two things…

1.) it would be the all time greatest dig at Purdue EVER. It would officially say “dude you are our little brother…own it.”

2.) he’d be able to recruit better at IU by far. Which is impressive considering he does well in that area

Painter wouldn’t go to IU now, but he damn sure would have in ‘89. 

12 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

I honestly think that Purdue would have a better chance of hiring those guys, hypothetically speaking. Indiana needs to find someone who really wants to be there and build them up. Maybe Dusty May can do it? Maybe not?

Purdue isn’t spending $8 million on a basketball coach anytime soon. There simply isn’t the ROI when you are selling out the season paying $4 million a year. 
 

But if IU was willing to pay Self/Cal/Coach K type money they could get one of those guys IMO. 

1 hour ago, Fkfootball said:

You give Indiana too much credit.

With the new B1G TV money, they should be able to outbid any non SEC/B1G school…so Shaka, Lloyd, Drew, even Bennett could be candidates if they are willing to double their salary. 

5 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

We need to hire Chris Collins. 

What about Scott Drew? Can’t imagine Baylor would want to spend $7-8 million on a basketball coach. 

1 hour ago, Fkfootball said:

I'd still take Holtman over Woodson. I think he's a good coach that for some reason struggled the last 2 years.

I’m glad IU didn’t get Holtmann. He would have been better than Archie or Woody at IU. 

1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said:

Not sure it really matters that much. Most coaches are gonna wait and see what other jobs open up and use those as leverage. 

Will this speed up Juwan’s inevitable demise at Michigan? 

2 hours ago, IUFLA said:

The old "Matt Painter to Missouri" ploy, eh? 

Yep. And Cal has used that ploy several times as well. 

3 hours ago, btownqb said:

 

Gard, Painter, Izzo to go 

IU plays more physical defense under Woodson than Purdue has in the last 5-8 years. Painter’s first analytics guy told him putting the other team in the bonus and then double bonus was no bueno. 

47 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I think in some ways yes. A senior assistant coach on staff that could take over the reigns and already have a report with the kids. Similar to Coach k and Scheyer and Williams and Davis at UNC. It doesn’t have to be announced, it doesn’t have to have a timeline but to look kids in the eye and parents and say we have a plan in place if that was to happen and if the kid is already happy with the staff etc nothing should change for them. 

And like with Mike Hopkins at Syracuse until Boeheim decided to coach till he was 80…

6 minutes ago, Indykev said:

The sun would fall on IU if they fired a coach when it was time. So now we lose out on and have to face a coach we might have wanted.

lots of good candidates here tho. 

9 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

I read the buyout is $15M

Beer sales for one Ohio State home  football schedule. 

48 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Holtmann has been fired 

Should have kept Matta. 

3 minutes ago, rico said:

I get it but I am a B1G fan and thus I will watch Peacock.  That being said, I don't know how much more Josh Pastner I can take.  Geez.  I find him EXTREMELY annoying.

He’s like that Eddie Haskell type kid you went to high school with… total phony. 

23 hours ago, dgambill said:

Question…if you are a 25 kid do you think Mike Woodson will make it to your senior year? Guy is 65….we honestly think he is coaching til he is 70….if he even keeps his job til your commitment. I don’t see any of these kids making an early commitment to IU…

That’s where the Fife coach in waiting scenario was going to come into play, right ?

2 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

They will land a lot less if Indiana ever gets serious about fielding a strong program again.

The days of 1 program, any program, “locking down the state” are gone forever, IMO. 

Most kids these days don’t grow up Purdue or IU fans unless they have parents who went to one of the schools. 
 

Hence kids going to MSU, Duke, UNC, Ohio State, Kentucky, etc etc. 

2 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

Not laughing at you but at the vast contrasts in the fan bases and their opinions of their head coach.

Painter - Everything happens because he planned it and wanted it that way. He's got the basketball world on a string.

Woodson - He wipes his ass from back to front. That's wrong and he should be skewered. 

Just edited my post to add that he is not going to try to Out-Kentucky Kentucky. 

1 hour ago, Victobmyboy said:

You say lean that way? I’d say it’s been more forced that way. You think MM, Langford, Ware, MR…etc would ever end up at PU? 

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Painter builds his rosters very purposefully. And he is constantly reevaluating and evolving his methods. 
 

EDIT: and CMP decided a long time ago that he was never going try to out-Kentucky Kentucky. 
 

10 hours ago, dgambill said:

The only thing Painter doesn’t have a strong track record with is putting guys in the nba consistently the same way IU does…but I think if you are just looking at the program alone…and where you think you will play your best basketball and have the most success…hard to argue against Purdue at this point

Agreed. Painter seems to lean toward kids that will be likely to stay 3-4 years, vs the NBA/OAD types. It’s great for continuity in the program but not so great for the “I’ll get you to the NBA pitch”. Hopefully Ivey and Edey can both prosper in the league, that will help. 
 

At the end of the day I still think Sisley is IUs to lose. I’d rather see him there than up north at Thug U…

8 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

If Indiana hired a coach even close to Painters level, they'll clean up with in-state recruiting. Purdue has benefited from Indiana being down. It's not a coincidence. Painter would really struggle if he stopped landing these Indiana kids.

Purdue has historically landed lots of Indiana kids. Less so when RMK was in his prime obviously, but it’s a long list. 

9 hours ago, Hoosierinbham said:

The Robbie Hummel role of 15 years ago no longer exists in Purdue's offense. 

Sure it does, if Painter has a 4 with skills. Like Vince Edwards. 
 

Painter doesn’t really have an “offense”. He figures out the best way for a particular team to score points that season, and builds an offense around the strongest options. For example, in 2019, the offense was letting Edwards and Cline bomb away. 
 

If he gets Sisley, in my opinion it will be because Sisley wants to know who’s he’s with playing for the next 4 years, instead of playing with a rotating cast of portal guys. 

7 hours ago, btownqb said:

But again, and I said this the other day.... Archie Miller couldn't have been more qualified/had won a ton of games when IU hired him. 

I have no idea how good May is, but I think the distinction is that Dusty built FAU into what it is. Archie most certainly did not build Dayton into what it was. 
 

12 hours ago, DC2345 said:

I’m not so sure about that 

If IU can match Auburn’s best counteroffer, I think they can get him. That would be fun. 

19 hours ago, SawatchHoosier said:

You won me putting that haircut on Mike Woodson and several HSN poster's (@IUFLA and @Dawg Bawls) avatars.

 

Woody looking like Ike Turner. 

2 hours ago, IUJoe said:

Lots of thought going around that some guys are not gonna want to be head coaches in college with the NIL and transfer portal.  They say there’s no time left to be a coach.  Boston College just lost their head coach to a DC position with the Packers.  Yes, it’s the NFL, but he still took a pay cut.

I doubt it was a big pay cut. Most NFL coordinators make at least a couple million a year. Factor in cost of living in Boston V Green Bay and probably a wash.