NotIThatLives Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Why? The ever perplexing idea that JG is a 3. Or possibly to play banks like a pro 4. Another year of development, it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Why? Why what? JHS or Banks. I think Geronimo is better suited to come off the bench and he is what he is. I see Banks with a lot more upside and I actually expected him to be more part of the rotation this year. As for JHS I see him leaving and it seems like what I have heard on some podcast it is pretty much a forgone conclusion. Edited February 6, 2023 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 NBA: JHS. 95% lottery/mid 1st 💰 TJD: 90%. I assume he has a degree and confidence he can play ZE15: 80%. Only takes one team to promise you a spot Did you guys ever look at Parker Friedrichson the ND commit? Portal PG or Cupps & TG ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: Why what? JHS or Banks. I think Geronimo is better suited to come off the bench and he is what he is. I see Banks with a lot more upside and I actually expected him to be more part of the rotation this year. As for JHS I see him leaving and it seems like what I have heard on some podcast it is pretty much a forgone conclusion. Why to both. Why would we be sure a guy predicted to go in the 20s is gone? Why would Banks start at the 4 when he plays the 3 for us every time he is in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Why to both. Why would we be sure a guy predicted to go in the 20s is gone? Why would Banks start at the 4 when he plays the 3 for us every time he is in? As for JHS, it is what I hear when listening to different podcast and last week on Assembly Call they said they heard that JHS will leave after this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 TJD has one more year. His covid year. His brother is now at IU. Lets pile up the NIL money and keep both TJD and JHS one more year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: As for JHS, it is what I hear when listening to different podcast and last week on Assembly Call they said they heard that JHS will leave after this year That just sounds more like a guess than anything. It's fine to speculate that but I don't think we really have any info one way or another on JHS yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: That just sounds more like a guess than anything. It's fine to speculate that but I don't think we really have any info one way or another on JHS yet. I think the guys at Assembly Call has some insiders they know, plus Tamar does a show for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think the guys at Assembly Call has some insiders they know, plus Tamar does a show for them. That doesn't mean that's insider info. For one, JHS has to know before anyone else and I doubt he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: That doesn't mean that's insider info. For one, JHS has to know before anyone else and I doubt he does. I hope he comes back but in my opinion very unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) JHS isn’t NBA bound IMO. A solid showing in the BTT and NCAA may lock him in. I see some sites with him not on the board and some with him as a second rounder that are more recent. Is anyone seeing anything saying lottery or mid 1st? If not I would think NIL money at IU as the star player would be worth another year to move into the high/mid of the first. But again he could play his way there by the end of the season and as we all know the NBA draft is on potential so… Edit: Well just found him 20th on ESPN as of the last update three days ago so yeah he gone. Edited February 7, 2023 by iuthruandthru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 JHS is a consistent outside shot away from being a lottery pick. Scouts at IU's preseason pro day were unanimous that he was a first rounder. I'd give about 2% chance he returns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 I don't want to completely derail this thread about JHS, but I think we all know at this point he is somewhere from late teens to late twenties in terms of draft prospects; but what we are missing is some statement from JHS at any point indicating he wanted to get to the NBA ASAP or even a quote from an insider. Lot's of hunches, and I get them, but we've also seen guys come back from similar draft positions (or even higher draft positions) depending on what their priorities are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 JHS has talent but still has a lot of room to develop (his shot, his defense, ability to take over a game, consistency). It is really up to him if he wants to develop that in the NBA or at IU next year. You can make a compelling case for both. His finish this year will be an important part of that answer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 8 hours ago, iuthruandthru said: JHS isn’t NBA bound IMO. A solid showing in the BTT and NCAA may lock him in. I see some sites with him not on the board and some with him as a second rounder that are more recent. Is anyone seeing anything saying lottery or mid 1st? If not I would think NIL money at IU as the star player would be worth another year to move into the high/mid of the first. But again he could play his way there by the end of the season and as we all know the NBA draft is on potential so… Edit: Well just found him 20th on ESPN as of the last update three days ago so yeah he gone. haha i liked the edit. I saw a few weeks ago he was projected early second rounder( low 30's), before he blew up (minus Maryland game). I can only imagine his stock has increased since. I dont think it to be 100% correlation, but we can almost assume if we end up having a good year with a nice tournament run, JHS would have much to do with that only to raise his draft value. So my assumption is that this will be a disappointing year to keep JHS or it will be a year to feel good about and not have JHS next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY hoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 If JHS is drafted in 1st half of Draft, that's a positive for Woodson& IU. Development & NBA prep are what the best players are looking for. If you are going to recruit the top players, they want to play as freshman and get to the league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euroclydon Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Trying to see the big picture. If IU can land someone like JHS but only get him for one season then what happens? The easy answer is you replace him with another great player or you slide back down the rungs. But is that necessary? Current elite teams add players like JHS and the next season they replace them with other great players because one season is all you are likely to get. I'm not sure IU is at the place where they annually replace great players with great players. It is more likely they land solid players and let them grow into big time players over time. If you happen to add a JHS type player the hope is you have enough solid guys that have developed to put around him and make a run. The fact IU has no bigs lined up in 2023 is cause for concern. Portal? Maybe. Steal a recruit after a coaching change? Maybe. If not and you lose TJD, Race, X and JHS along with any possible transfers means you have to expect a step back. That's not a slight against the returning players but reality is you're not going to be at the same level as the group that is leaving without adding some truly top notch players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Euroclydon said: Trying to see the big picture. If IU can land someone like JHS but only get him for one season then what happens? The easy answer is you replace him with another great player or you slide back down the rungs. But is that necessary? Current elite teams add players like JHS and the next season they replace them with other great players because one season is all you are likely to get. I'm not sure IU is at the place where they annually replace great players with great players. It is more likely they land solid players and let them grow into big time players over time. If you happen to add a JHS type player the hope is you have enough solid guys that have developed to put around him and make a run. The fact IU has no bigs lined up in 2023 is cause for concern. Portal? Maybe. Steal a recruit after a coaching change? Maybe. If not and you lose TJD, Race, X and JHS along with any possible transfers means you have to expect a step back. That's not a slight against the returning players but reality is you're not going to be at the same level as the group that is leaving without adding some truly top notch players. At his peak, RMK had his best teams on about a 5 year cycle. Won it all in '76,'81,'87 and probably should have in '92. Had a gap in the late 90's, then Davis led Knight's players back to the championship game in 2002. Point being, we have never been a program that is consistently at the top every year. We have never strung together a run of consecutive Final Fours. CMW will find players and coach them to be good even after this year, but to expect a consistency we've never shown is probably not going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY hoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 A good mix of solid 4 year players and select 1 & done or 2 year players is a likely approach for IU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY hoosier Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Also portal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: At his peak, RMK had his best teams on about a 5 year cycle. Won it all in '76,'81,'87 and probably should have in '92. Had a gap in the late 90's, then Davis led Knight's players back to the championship game in 2002. Point being, we have never been a program that is consistently at the top every year. We have never strung together a run of consecutive Final Fours. CMW will find players and coach them to be good even after this year, but to expect a consistency we've never shown is probably not going to happen. I think without the portal you’d be absolutely right, but with the transfer portal I don’t see any reason why we can’t replace and move right along. I think CMW’s comments about him not coming here to rebuild speak to the optimism that he plans to reload, not rebuild next year. Hope I’m right! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euroclydon Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 IU better hit on the portal or convince some to switch after coaching changes. Look at the conference rosters. Not many have as many key pieces leaving to graduation. Granted, there could be a surprise here and there and you never know with transfers. Still, other team's have better roster balance as it stands today. Some bigs are just juniors, incuding Edey and Dickinson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Seems to be a lack of size we are looking at based on the names being talked about below. I have not been paying as much attention to recruiting since the Kaufman-Renn stuff, I am hoping that we have some irons in the fire to replace Thompson and TJD that I am just not seeing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 Any idea who this could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Any idea who this could be? If finally extended an offer??? Stud Freshman? Who would that be that we didnt offer? 1 of the 2 PU guards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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