Popular Post DC2345 Posted October 12, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, IUwins0708 said: IU in the lead, UK still too close to call. Like our chances here though. Woody is killing it with these kids but more importantly with the parents and especially moms! 100% Woody has found a way to win over the parents in multiple recruitments whether he’s landed the recruit or not. Parents are trusting him with their kids and that’s a good thing for now and moving forward. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 21 hours ago, DC2345 said: 100% Woody has found a way to win over the parents in multiple recruitments whether he’s landed the recruit or not. Parents are trusting him with their kids and that’s a good thing for now and moving forward. Parents aren’t dumb. They see what happened in Alabama and other places. They see how the kids act…they see them get to the nba…they see he knows the league and what teams want. Lot to like. His actual coaching might be his weakest link…and he is no Archie there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, dgambill said: Parents aren’t dumb. They see what happened in Alabama and other places. They see how the kids act…they see them get to the nba…they see he knows the league and what teams want. Lot to like. His actual coaching might be his weakest link…and he is no Archie there. I don't see that at all. He was good enough to coach in the NBA. That's more than most college coaches can say. Calipari and Pitino sure couldn't hack it in the pros. Edited October 13, 2023 by FKIM01 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, dgambill said: Parents aren’t dumb. They see what happened in Alabama and other places. They see how the kids act…they see them get to the nba…they see he knows the league and what teams want. Lot to like. His actual coaching might be his weakest link…and he is no Archie there. Far from it, imo. Edited October 13, 2023 by btownqb 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 I’d say his coaching is the best we’ve had since the General when you combine getting players to improve, get motivated, and on court strategies. Not everything works but he has no shortage of strategy. Our biggest thing is we could just use more perimeter shooting which isn’t a coaching issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, btownqb said: Far from it, imo. I remember when Coach Woodson was first announced. After the initial angst, the biggest worry was whether he could recruit! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Drroogh said: I remember when Coach Woodson was first announced. After the initial angst, the biggest worry was whether he could recruit! Ahh, the good old days.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Here's an interesting article from 2014... In that year, Crean had just come off of 17-15 7-11 campaign and there was already talk of Woody coming back...As we all know, Crean would continue on through 2016-17, and then we'd have the Archie Miller era... "It’s not a question of Xs and Os, Woodson can hold his own there just fine (I hope those IU players know how to switch on picks), but can he recruit?" questions NBC Sports' Kurt Helin. "He has an NBA pedigree and that’s a nice thing to sell to prospective players, but the college game is really all about recruiting and nobody knows if Woodson would be good at that or not." I think we have a good idea now, eh? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iuswingman Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 keep the boogies out of my nuggets.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: Here's an interesting article from 2014... In that year, Crean had just come off of 17-15 7-11 campaign and there was already talk of Woody coming back...As we all know, Crean would continue on through 2016-17, and then we'd have the Archie Miller era... "It’s not a question of Xs and Os, Woodson can hold his own there just fine (I hope those IU players know how to switch on picks), but can he recruit?" questions NBC Sports' Kurt Helin. "He has an NBA pedigree and that’s a nice thing to sell to prospective players, but the college game is really all about recruiting and nobody knows if Woodson would be good at that or not." I think we have a good idea now, eh? I wonder why IU didn’t truly consider Woody back then? I just feel like obviously after the fact but man where would we truly be if we hired him back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: I wonder why IU didn’t truly consider Woody back then? I just feel like obviously after the fact but man where would we truly be if we hired him back then. Fred Glass was the AD back then, and he didn't have the vision Dolson does for IU basketball...Plus Crean had just signed a big extension in 2012 and the buyout at the time was probably larger than IU wanted to pay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Fred Glass was the AD back then, and he didn't have the vision Dolson does for IU basketball...Plus Crean had just signed a big extension in 2012 and the buyout at the time was probably larger than IU wanted to pay... Got it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Fred Glass was the AD back then, and he didn't have the vision Dolson does for IU basketball...Plus Crean had just signed a big extension in 2012 and the buyout at the time was probably larger than IU wanted to pay... It just stinks because it’s that many more years we would’ve had Woody. I feel like we aren’t gonna have him as long as we will want. I don’t think he’s gonna be Larry brown and coach in his 80s I think he stays for 3-4 more years then it’s back to the drawing board of hoping we find that woody 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: It just stinks because it’s that many more years we would’ve had Woody. I feel like we aren’t gonna have him as long as we will want. I don’t think he’s gonna be Larry brown and coach in his 80s I think he stays for 3-4 more years then it’s back to the drawing board of hoping we find that woody 2.0 Maybe the hire that was better than Woody was Scott Dolson...IU Sports (beyond football, which I think will be addressed) are all looking up...And he's got to get a ton of credit for seeing in Woody what a lot of people didn't... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Trey Johnson cuts Kentucky. Number 1 player in 24. That’s not a good thing with Boogie close to decision right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: Trey Johnson cuts Kentucky. Number 1 player in 24. That’s not a good thing with Boogie close to decision right? They weren’t expecting to land him. They are waiting on 2 reclass guys. Jasper Johnson and Peterson. Trey Johnson was never a part of the UK boogie decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: Trey Johnson cuts Kentucky. Number 1 player in 24. That’s not a good thing with Boogie close to decision right? Different Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 This is a UK guy. Never heard of him, but I like him! 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, KDB said: This is a UK guy. Never heard of him, but I like him! Calipari magic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Maybe the hire that was better than Woody was Scott Dolson...IU Sports (beyond football, which I think will be addressed) are all looking up...And he's got to get a ton of credit for seeing in Woody what a lot of people didn't... To be fair…recruiting in 2022-23 is far far far different than 2014….like as different as pre-AAU to post AAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, KDB said: This is a UK guy. Never heard of him, but I like him! He is one of the writers for the A Sea of Blue Blog on SB Nation, definitely a nobody 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, dgambill said: To be fair…recruiting in 2022-23 is far far far different than 2014….like as different as pre-AAU to post AAU. Undoubtedly... with NIL and the portal... But I've always heard that recruiting is about relationships... and Woody seems pretty good in that department... a lot of kids buy what he's selling... He may have been at a disadvantage with the schools who were dealing under the table at that time (and we all know who they are) but Crean did get talent to IU... I can't imagine Coach Woodson couldn't have matched that... plus I'm not sure if he would have "lost" a lot of the Indiana high school coaches as lore has it CTC did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Undoubtedly... with NIL and the portal... But I've always heard that recruiting is about relationships... and Woody seems pretty good in that department... a lot of kids buy what he's selling... He may have been at a disadvantage with the schools who were dealing under the table at that time (and we all know who they are) but Crean did get talent to IU... I can't imagine Coach Woodson couldn't have matched that... plus I'm not sure if he would have "lost" a lot of the Indiana high school coaches as lore has it CTC did... Crean did get some talent but he also had a “ throw it against the wall and see what sticks “ approach. An offer from Crean to play at IU was viewed more as a commodity rather than something special. He missed on as many as he hit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Crean did get some talent but he also had a “ throw it against the wall and see what sticks “ approach. An offer from Crean to play at IU was viewed more as a commodity rather than something special. He missed on as many as he hit on. Exactly. Crean missed on a hell of a lot more than he hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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