IUFLA Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) I had a nightmare that the Cubs fired David Ross, IU football fired Tom Allen, and the Bears fired Matt Eberflus... Then, the Bears hired Tom Allen, IU hired David Ross, and the Cubs hired Matt Eberflus... 🫢 Edited October 1, 2023 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Well I’m as frustrated as the next IU Football fan. Just don’t understand why we can’t turn this program around enough to be relevant. I don’t know who is available that could do it. It’s got to be more than one coach. We need an HC, OC, and DC that can work together and build something positive.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: Well I’m as frustrated as the next IU Football fan. Just don’t understand why we can’t turn this program around enough to be relevant. I don’t know who is available that could do it. It’s got to be more than one coach. We need an HC, OC, and DC that can work together and build something positive.  Well the first problem we got is getting rid of CTA and LEO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 hours ago, jv1972iu said: Play out this season...fire Allen...hire Pat Fitzgerald. No thank, you think our offense is had just look at NW the last couple of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/indiana-football-coach-tom-allen-should-stop-blaming-players-for-poor-execution?fbclid=IwAR13XjdRZQoLaucNA6V7o3oFMRw_BPhOzxZag5pbJVYo1xa8rfy7dZIYeTQ Even the media are calling out the coaches 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: Thanks, Coach! You always know best! SMFH.  Why so butt hurt just stating my opinion. Edited October 1, 2023 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Here’s my take on the current state of IU football. 1. Allen is a lame duck coach but he’s going to stay in place for another year because of the buyout 2. Tayven has had his struggles but Sorsby would too. They are RS Fr with an OC that isn’t putting them in great spots to succeed 3. For example Tayven isn’t great at running option offense yet Bell continues to call those plays. He also tells him what reads to make rather than letting him make the reads. That’s just not a good recipe for success 4. The university doesn’t support football at a high enough level. That has to change if the program ever wants to have any level of consistency 5. IU needs an offensive minded coach that can put QB’s in better positions to succeed Edited October 1, 2023 by DC2345 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Here’s my take on the current state of IU football. 1. Allen is a lame duck coach but he’s going to stay in place for another year because of the buyout 2. Tayven has had his struggles but Sorsby would too. They are RS Fr with an OC that isn’t putting them in great spots to succeed 3. For example Tayven isn’t great at running option offense yet Bell continues to call those plays. He also tells him what reads to make rather than letting him make the reads. That’s just not a good recipe for success 4. The university doesn’t support football at a high enough level. That has to change if the program ever wants to have any level of consistency 5. IU needs an offensive minded coach that can put QB’s in better positions to succeed This is a great post and I agree 1000% with all points.  IU definitely needs a new perspective and football is the driving force now and forever to long term college athletics. We need to reinvent ourselves. Forget about the painful past and become a football school and prioritize it. Basketball takes care of itself but it won't pay the bills down the road.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Here’s my take on the current state of IU football. 1. Allen is a lame duck coach but he’s going to stay in place for another year because of the buyout 2. Tayven has had his struggles but Sorsby would too. They are RS Fr with an OC that isn’t putting them in great spots to succeed 3. For example Tayven isn’t great at running option offense yet Bell continues to call those plays. He also tells him what reads to make rather than letting him make the reads. That’s just not a good recipe for success 4. The university doesn’t support football at a high enough level. That has to change if the program ever wants to have any level of consistency 5. IU needs an offensive minded coach that can put QB’s in better positions to succeed #4 there is where the rubber meets the road. Wouldn't it be something if IU fired Allen today? To me that would signal that we are serious about our program. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Here’s my take on the current state of IU football. 1. Allen is a lame duck coach but he’s going to stay in place for another year because of the buyout 2. Tayven has had his struggles but Sorsby would too. They are RS Fr with an OC that isn’t putting them in great spots to succeed 3. For example Tayven isn’t great at running option offense yet Bell continues to call those plays. He also tells him what reads to make rather than letting him make the reads. That’s just not a good recipe for success 4. The university doesn’t support football at a high enough level. That has to change if the program ever wants to have any level of consistency 5. IU needs an offensive minded coach that can put QB’s in better positions to succeed We need to pin this. Well said. It appears our current president supports athletics more than prior administrations. Dolson has made good hires in other sports. Between B1G TV money and our NIL collective, we should be competitive in football beyond what we've been in the past. Spend big next hire. Next hire has to be an offensive mindset. Preferably a former OC or qb guru with an innovative game plan. If it's a defensive guy, please make sure they're willing to have an innovative offense. We need to spread with speed. Next coach needs to give Seth Littrell a call. I really like CTA, and wish we could slide him over to DC and get a new leader. Won't happen, but that could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, rico said: #4 there is where the rubber meets the road. Wouldn't it be something if IU fired Allen today? To me that would signal that we are serious about our program. It’s even more than that. Look at what Colorado did with Sanders. Everything about the University became Prime everything. They have to create larger budgets and give greater support to football as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, DC2345 said: It’s even more than that. Look at what Colorado did with Sanders. Everything about the University became Prime everything. They have to create larger budgets and give greater support to football as well. And it starts with getting rid of LEO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) I read Bell is making $700,000 per year…let’s just say the product on the field doesn’t come close to the salary he’s paid (same goes for Allen). Edited October 1, 2023 by Hoosier987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: No thank, you think our offense is had just look at NW the last couple of years The point of my post centers on IU hiring a competent HC. I see Fitzgerald as being competent, available, and having something to prove. You don't care for my opinion... fine. That's your right, Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, jv1972iu said: The point of my post centers on IU hiring a competent HC. I see Fitzgerald as being competent, available, and having something to prove. You don't care for my opinion... fine. That's your right, Coach. If we could land Fitz that would be a major improvement. Personally, I would love to get Jason Candle(Toledo). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 I wouldn’t like a Fitzgerald hire personally because I want an offensive minded coach that can scheme things to score points. Fitzgerald just isn’t that guy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rico said: If we could land Fitz that would be a major improvement. Personally, I would love to get Jason Candle(Toledo). He would probably also be a good candidate, IMHO. But then...I don't know anything about his team's offense. He doesn't run the single wing or whatever, does he?  🙄 Edited October 1, 2023 by jv1972iu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I wouldn’t like a Fitzgerald hire personally because I want an offensive minded coach that can scheme things to score points. Fitzgerald just isn’t that guy. 110-101 in 17 years at Northwestern with 10 bowl appearances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I wouldn’t like a Fitzgerald hire personally because I want an offensive minded coach that can scheme things to score points. Fitzgerald just isn’t that guy. I can understand your point. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 15 hours ago, bronkonagurski said: I know it was trash time but Sorsby was throwing the ball with a lot more accuracy. Tayven misses so many open throws. I was hoping to see that improve over time; like in the 2nd half of the Louisville game TJ seemed dialed in but the inconsistency has continued since then. I was never going to say anything but I thought Sorsby was better this whole time…he’s a littler quicker and more accurate. I thought it wasn’t fair to him that TJ got to start against ISU…I mean I could of looked good against them…he didn’t really earn to start because ISU is AWFUL it basically proves nothing playing against them…I think the name and the 4 star recruit got him the starting spot. He has talent clearly and it is close but I liked Sorsby a little better. Not that it will make much of difference with this staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: The point of my post centers on IU hiring a competent HC. I see Fitzgerald as being competent, available, and having something to prove. You don't care for my opinion... fine. That's your right, Coach. Former football coach Pat Fitzgerald is working toward finalization of a lawsuit against the university alleging breach of contract. The action has an estimated potential gross recovery nearing $100 million.  https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230928/jim-odonnell-pat-fitzgerald-is-close-to-filing-a-mega-million-lawsuit-against-northwestern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: He would probably also be a good candidate, IMHO. But then...I don't know anything about his team's offense. He doesn't run the single wing or whatever, does he?  🙄 He runs a balanced offense and Miami has tried to get him in as OC a couple of times.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: He runs a balanced offense and Miami has tried to get him in as OC a couple of times. Â ND kicked the tires last year as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Jon Gruden to the Hoosiers baby!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW75 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just now, FritzIam4IU said: Jon Gruden to the Hoosiers baby!! Flightaware app confirmed 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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