kyhoosier29 Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I think The Daily Hoosier story is quoting Woody. Not meant to be his own. I was referring to the first part of his comment….not his quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 Wright State falls to Toledo 78-77... So they'll come into SSAH 0-2... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 50 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Wright State falls to Toledo 78-77... So they'll come into SSAH 0-2... Uh oh... They will be hungry! And due for a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Reacher said: Uh oh... They will be hungry! And due for a win. O/U for made Wright State three pointers is 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 hours ago, FKIM01 said: O/U for made Wright State three pointers is 14. Did you make that up or is that for real? I'm predicting 9. The defense will show improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 hours ago, FKIM01 said: O/U for made Wright State three pointers is 14. 20 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Did you make that up or is that for real? I'm predicting 9. The defense will show improvement. They're 10-31 on 3s in their 2 games so I'd take the under on either of those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: They're 10-31 on 3s in their 2 games so I'd take the under on either of those... Nope, they’ll make 10+, every team will until we learn to guard the perimeter. And somebody will have a career night, yet again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said: Nope, they’ll make 10+, every team will until we learn to guard the perimeter. And somebody will have a career night, yet again. Tanner Holden has already gone for 38 on two different occasions so lets hope it's not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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13th&Jackson Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Did you make that up or is that for real? I'm predicting 9. The defense will show improvement. Agree. They've been working on their defensive communication: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 What I'm really hoping for tomorrow night is a team that comes out with a focus and bit of a chip on the shoulder that comes from knowing they have not looked sharp and wanting to show what they can be and not what they have been. I certainly don't expect a finished product at this time of the year. However, I would like to see some improvement from the last game to give us something positive headed into the trip to NYC. I have to watch later on DVR tomorrow night so have fun in the game thread my fellow degenerates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 So one thing I haven't yet seen mentioned is the massive lead we have in both FTs attempted (52-15) and FTs made (37-5) in our 2 games... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, IUFLA said: So one thing I haven't yet seen mentioned is the massive lead we have in both FTs attempted (52-15) and FTs made (37-5) in our 2 games... Yup, the focus has been on the 3P attempt discrepancy, but FT attempts is one way to make up for that. So far we have the 7th highest free throw rate on offense and 5th lowest free throw rate on defense in the country. Will be interesting to see if that continues. Last year we were really bad at getting to the line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Kdug said: Yup, the focus has been on the 3P attempt discrepancy, but FT attempts is one way to make up for that. So far we have the 7th highest free throw rate on offense and 5th lowest free throw rate on defense in the country. Will be interesting to see if that continues. Last year we were really bad at getting to the line. Forgive me if I'm incorrect but I thought Free Throw rate was the number of free throws per field goal attempt. Given that we're nearly dead last in field gold attempts it would make sense that we have a high free throw rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Forgive me if I'm incorrect but I thought Free Throw rate was the number of free throws per field goal attempt. Given that we're nearly dead last in field gold attempts it would make sense that we have a high free throw rate? That is correct. But field goal attempts is impacted by free throw rate. If you’re shooting free throws, that means you aren’t attempting a field goal unless it’s an and one. That’s objectively a good thing since free throws are one of the most efficient ways to score. Field goal attempts isn’t all that meaningful of a stat since several things impact it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Kdug said: That is correct. But field goal attempts is impacted by free throw rate. If you’re shooting free throws, that means you aren’t attempting a field goal unless it’s an and one. That’s objectively a good thing since free throws are one of the most efficient ways to score. Field goal attempts isn’t all that meaningful of a stat since several things impact it. Sure it is. It speaks to a slow tempo It speaks to a lack of offensive rebounding It speaks to a high turnover rate And, as you mentioned, it speaks to Free Throw Rate. If you have an inordinately low number of field goal attempts, which IU does, 3 of those 4 bullets are negative factors. The only positive one is FT rate. IU will be a (the?) bottom of the conference team in the Big Ten if it continues to be sub-300 in the number of Field Goal attempts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 I do expect to see a better effort tonight. I think we will see more small ball; our depth hurts us here but it is what it is, our best lineup is with the three guards and they are all capable of playing 30+ minutes. Sprinkle in 10 or so minutes from Gunn and that is about half the game looking at a three guard lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Sure it is. It speaks to a slow tempo It speaks to a lack of offensive rebounding It speaks to a high turnover rate And, as you mentioned, it speaks to Free Throw Rate. If you have an inordinately low number of field goal attempts, which IU does, 3 of those 4 bullets are negative factors. The only positive one is FT rate. IU will be a (the?) bottom of the conference team in the Big Ten if it continues to be sub-300 in the number of Field Goal attempts. While I agree that those 4 things are the components of FGA, I disagree that 3 are negative. 2 of those 4 are negative, one is positive, and one is neutral. A slow tempo is not inherently a negative thing. The top 3 kenpom teams last year ranked 204, 339, and 235 in tempo. There can be good slow tempo teams and bad fast tempo teams as well as the other way around. The reason I say field goal attempts isn’t a meaningful stat is because it’s combining a mix of good, bad, and neutral factors, so it’s hard to actually tell what’s going on. I’d prefer to focus on the actual factors that go into it and say IU has done a good job of getting to the free throw line, but struggled immensely with turnovers and rebounding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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5fouls Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, IUFLA said: Time to give Bardo a chance. The team wasn't playing well with Hummel. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Time to sync up Fisch and mute Bardo & Kugler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: Time to give Bardo a chance. The team wasn't playing well with Hummel. So, instead of Hummel, it will be Bardo saying, "I can't understand why they keep leaving Calvin, a 50% three-point shooter, unguarded? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: So, instead of Hummel, it will be Bardo saying, "I can't understand why they keep leaving Calvin, a 50% three-point shooter, unguarded? Hell, it might be so obvious that it's Kugler who says that instead of Bardo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 I think Mac is going to have a good night tonight... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I think Mac is going to have a good night tonight... I think so too. Only a matter of time before he has a breakout game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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