Louisville Post Game Thread

[IUFLA]

1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said:

The only meaningful data I can post is that in 4 of the first 5 games we have scored more points than our opponents.

Been that way since they were poking the ball out of peach baskets with a stick...

I use to marvel at some of the old MSU teams (the greasiness of their coach not withstanding) that would pull you down into the mud and beat on you til you said "uncle."

Maybe that's the team we have to be for a while, but I think once our freshmen and sophomores settle down, and our senior leaders understand their roles, the ugly duckling might just turn into a beautiful swan... 

[5fouls]

20 minutes ago, IndyHoosier said:

bro if got it up, 

[IndyHoosier]

2 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Trying to workout and post at the same time. You clearly understood what I meant. Context clues my man…

[mrflynn03]

6 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Thanks,

I'm trying to avoid game threads when possible this season.  Don't find them to be productive and I enjoy the games more when I'm just watching.

Same here. I'll scroll through post game but I find myself getting distracted if I'm in the game thread. 

I did comment yesterday because I was sick of ESPN and their Dan Hurley UCONN worship. When they went split screen I felt the need to vent. I guess they're the new duke. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by mrflynn03

[Hoosierfan1215]

Few things. 
Mgbako needs a lot of work, but I will say he looked more comfortable than I’ve seen all year. Had a couple nice looks to teammates and was hustling. 
Sparks and Banks hustle on the boards were very noticeable to me. They don’t get every one, but they were in the mix and had some deflections out to other people. Banks also for not being very quick had some good defensive plays too. 
We DESPERATELY need someone to make some outside shots. Holy crap. 
Zone was a game changer and us knowing what we were doing getting the ball down low was nice to see late. It wasn’t running around until the last second setting 3 screens and weaving. It was come down set a screen, get the mismatch and go inside. It worked. 
I don’t feel like we’re a “good” team yet, but I think this is the most we’ve looked like that so far this year. 
walker played a lot better tonight, entire bench helped out. 
Lastly, UConn is VERY good. 

[KoB2011]

Here is the zone quote for those bickering over it:

 

[5fouls]

Going to post this here, but may warrant it's own thread

I think CJ Gunn would benefit from trying to be a scorer, not a shooter.  He clearly has very good athleticism and decent instincts.

Drives to the basket, fast break buckets, getting to the line.  I would like to see him do more of those types of things, rather than pulling up from 3 or taking a mid-range jumper.

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

[Steubenhoosier]

3 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Going to post this here, but may warrant it's own thread

I think CJ Gunn would benefit from trying to be a scorer, not a shooter.  He clearly has very good athleticism and decent instincts.

Drives to the basket, fast break buckets, getting to the line.  I would like to see him do more of those types of things, rather than pulling up from 3 or taking a mid-range jumper.

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

I think he could benefit from an extended mentoring by Calbert. 

[KDB]

Just now, 5fouls said:

Going to post this here, but may warrant it's own thread

I think CJ Gunn would benefit from trying to be a scorer, not a shooter.  He clearly has very good athleticism and decent instincts.

Drives to the basket, fast break buckets, getting to the line.  I would like to see him do more of those types of things, rather than pulling up from 3 or taking a mid-range jumper.

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

I agree, and I think it could make his shot start to come along quicker as well. I know some think otherwise and no doubt it’s been rough, but CJ is a good shooter, it’ll come. I really think if he puts it all together his ceiling is a high one.

[Seeking6]

Just getting caught up. Was watching on the phone. 56-51 I was like ok....this ain't good but glad to hear our staff make the move necessary to win at closing time. To finish the game on 23-8 or whatever that means our staff and players did what was necessary.

Will have to watch later but otherwise. Good win and we'll find out down the road the quality of it but right now we can enjoy the ride home and the holidays. 

 

[Muddy River]

32 minutes ago, IndyHoosier said:

Yes, and his decision to listen to someone else, someone with apparently a better eye than his for today’s game, is what won the game. Thankfully he deferred to that someone, which allowed the team to win. 

So, if he defers to someone in the future and we lose the game, does he get a pass?  

[mrflynn03]

1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

I didn't miss anything... "At the end of the day, Mile Woodson makes the decisions." 

I would expect anyone who played high level varsity basketball to have experience with 2-3 zone. It really isn't that difficult.  The hardest position is the guy in the middle on the baseline. Has to keep moving to avoid a lane violation. That's how I was taught anyway. 

Probably the easiest defense to wing it.  

Edited November 21, 2023 by mrflynn03

[SawatchHoosier]

11 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

Here is the zone quote for those bickering over it:

 

To be honest we have the length and athleticism to play an excellent zone. Cupps or Galloway with 4 of these players Ware, Banks, Gunn, XJ, Malik, Walker, Mgbako, Sparks would make a great zone...on paper at least. 

[mrflynn03]

3 minutes ago, Muddy River said:

So, if he defers to someone in the future and we lose the game, does he get a pass?  

If I'm a CEO I pay people to provide input, have fresh ideas, do support roles to help the organization be successful.  I think it's great Woody took a suggestion and went with it. 

[SawatchHoosier]

12 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

He brought a lot of energy off the bench during the first half. His motor is excellent and that energy is contagious. Gunn many times tonight was the first player down the court on both defense and offense. I think you're correct that if he begins looking to become a scorer defenders will have to respect his length and athleticism giving him more wide open looks. 

[Muddy River]

Agreed, and he should get credit for it.  However it amazes me how some people would rather twist things to make themselves look right as opposed to recognizing progress and celebrating wins.

[3Ballin]

So had to work late and just finished watching the game. I've been kinda hard on Sparks and mostly Walker and I gota give them both a bunch of credit for how they played today!  They both played their butts off today and along with the zone we pulled out our @$$ were a huge reason we won. I still dont want Walker shooting outside of 8ft but the rest of what hr did today i believe is where he will shine. 

[MSHoosier]

If you look in the game thread, I was one who was very hard on X when he  turned a possible 10 point half time lead to five. Once we switched to the zone, he seemed to calm down and started making some plays.

Edited November 21, 2023 by MSHoosier

[94hoosier]

1 hour ago, IndyHoosier said:

If you’re referring to going zone, no, Woody didn’t make that call. Said someone else mentioned it in the huddle and they went with it. Woody is still a liability 

 that’s why you have assistant coaches. 

[EvilleHoosier]

Yesterday I said Woodson needed to shorten the bench to 7. Shows what I know.   Walker, Sparks, Banks, and Gunn all brought energy and toughness.  Never thought we'd get 30 bench points and 19 boards. Nice adjustment on the zone.  Got the win and looked better than we have. 

[KoB2011]

4 minutes ago, MSHoosier said:

If you look in the game thread, I was one who was very hard on X when he  turned a possible 10 point half time lead to five. Once we switched to the zone, he seemed to calm down and started making some plays.

Enlighten me how X did that before half? 

[MSHoosier]

X threw the ball away when he had Gunn on a breakaway which Louisville retrieved and then hit a three at the buzzer. That is what I was referring to

1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

Enlighten me how X did that before half? 

 

[IUCrazy2]

35 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Going to post this here, but may warrant it's own thread

I think CJ Gunn would benefit from trying to be a scorer, not a shooter.  He clearly has very good athleticism and decent instincts.

Drives to the basket, fast break buckets, getting to the line.  I would like to see him do more of those types of things, rather than pulling up from 3 or taking a mid-range jumper.

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

I honestly wouldn't mind him or Banks starting at that 3 spot in the next game.  Maybe giving Mbako a chance to watch the game for a bit and then come in would help him for a few games.  At least if or until he gets it going.

[94hoosier]

38 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Going to post this here, but may warrant it's own thread

I think CJ Gunn would benefit from trying to be a scorer, not a shooter.  He clearly has very good athleticism and decent instincts.

Drives to the basket, fast break buckets, getting to the line.  I would like to see him do more of those types of things, rather than pulling up from 3 or taking a mid-range jumper.

I think he could excel with that type of approach.  Could be a microwave off the bench.

That is spot on. Shot fake and drive. Back cut. take the occasional open jumper

[mrflynn03]

58 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Been that way since they were poking the ball out of peach baskets with a stick...

I use to marvel at some of the old MSU teams (the greasiness of their coach not withstanding) that would pull you down into the mud and beat on you til you said "uncle."

Maybe that's the team we have to be for a while, but I think once our freshmen and sophomores settle down, and our senior leaders understand their roles, the ugly duckling might just turn into a beautiful swan... 

You talking about Jud Heathcote, Larry would have beat them without that thumb injury, or Tom Grosso?