Naturalhoosier Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I would doubt he would come here after we hire Allan There families are way to close and he would feel less me he betrayed him if he took this job. I view it the other way. I think he would consult CTA who would encourage him to take the job. No animosity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 A coach who can have a competent offense and put a ton of points on the board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 I really hope we go after an offensive minded coach. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 I guess you have to ask what is the most important thing when looking at a HC candidate. Do you want a person with HC experience and if we do then it will probably come from a smaller conference. Do you want someone known as a great recruiter who has been a coordinator at a high level program. If we go the experience route does he have good recruiting connections who can recruit the higher rated kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 If it weren't for health concerns Jerry Kill would be a good candidate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: I really hope we go after an offensive minded coach. Kevin Wilson was what we needed but IU has this need to be morally superior. It's disgusting If you want to win be mean, have tough skin, do what it takes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, Common Sense said: A coach who can have a competent offense and put a ton of points on the board. Nathaniel Hackett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I guess you have to ask what is the most important thing when looking at a HC candidate. Do you want a person with HC experience and if we do then it will probably come from a smaller conference. Do you want someone known as a great recruiter who has been a coordinator at a high level program. If we go the experience route does he have good recruiting connections who can recruit the higher rated kids. My hope is we leave no stone unturned and find the best possible candidate. I understand the want for experience, but I also hope we don’t hire a guy who failed at place with more resources than we have available (for example, a Gerry Dinardo type) just for the sake of experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp75 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Naturalhoosier said: I view it the other way. I think he would consult CTA who would encourage him to take the job. No animosity. I think this is right. I think that's the kind of guy TA is. And I think Womack makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 I just talked to my guy good friend in Bloomington. He was my old college roommate. He worked for IU in sports management and had several connections with former IU players. I just thought I would ask what he thought or heard… This was was his reply and only a rumor of what he heard. Mind you, this is what he has heard, but he said who knows. Take it for what it’s worth. He said his source is from inside athletics… The rumor over the last few weeks… Is that Allen will be fired and his replacement is Antwaan Randall El. Apparently it’s a done deal. 🤷🏻♂️ Allen is a good guy and incredible values but unfortunately that doesn’t win games. He will end up a defensive coordinator somewhere. Another rumor is Southern Cal is interested in him for the DC job. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturalhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Artesian_86 said: I just talked to my guy good friend in Bloomington. He was my old college roommate. He worked for IU in sports management and had several connections with former IU players. I just thought I would ask what he thought or heard… This was was his reply and only a rumor of what he heard. Mind you, this is what he has heard, but he said who knows. Take it for what it’s worth. He said his source is from inside athletics… The rumor over the last few weeks… Is that Allen will be fired and his replacement is Antwaan Randall El. Apparently it’s a done deal. 🤷🏻♂️ Allen is a good guy and incredible values but unfortunately that doesn’t win games. He will end up a defensive coordinator somewhere. Another rumor is Southern Cal is interested in him for the DC job. I love ARE. But damn that doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: I just talked to my guy good friend in Bloomington. He was my old college roommate. He worked for IU in sports management and had several connections with former IU players. I just thought I would ask what he thought or heard… This was was his reply and only a rumor of what he heard. Mind you, this is what he has heard, but he said who knows. Take it for what it’s worth. He said his source is from inside athletics… The rumor over the last few weeks… Is that Allen will be fired and his replacement is Antwaan Randall El. Apparently it’s a done deal. 🤷🏻♂️ Allen is a good guy and incredible values but unfortunately that doesn’t win games. He will end up a defensive coordinator somewhere. Another rumor is Southern Cal is interested in him for the DC job. Been saying ARE for weeks. What he's done with Detroit WR's alone is better than what we've seen the last 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Been saying ARE for weeks. What he's done with Detroit WR's alone is better than what we've seen the last 2 years. Dolson going the same route he did with Woody... Indiana guy, Alum, all time Hoosier great, pro career both as a player and coach... Might work out... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Dolson going the same route he did with Woody... Indiana guy, Alum, all time Hoosier great, pro career both as a player and coach... Might work out... But Woody had HC experience. ARE hasn’t been a HC or OC. If true this sounds incredibly risky. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Naturalhoosier said: I love ARE. But damn that doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies. I would love ARE, but who knows how solid his source is in athletics…. One of my fondest and crazy memories when we were roommates (1990-92 at Woodbridge Apartments)… We had a huge party and he invited several IU players …I had a Foosball table and they were all play us. It was Matt Nover, Pat Knight, Pat Graham and Brian Evans. Pat Graham was on my balcony throwing wood of our deck (we had a fireplace) and people were complaining and called the cops. Matt Nover was absolutely hammered and threw up all over my bathroom floor and forgot his wallet. He came back the next day to get it…lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) As much as I like and respect ARE, I’m not liking the idea of making him head coach. It seems like the kind of move that has a much more likelihood of failing than succeeding. Edited November 26, 2023 by FritzIam4IU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 I loved ARE as a player, but that scares me. He’s never even been a coordinator. I’m pretty sure this is the same scenario as Cam Cameron, NFL experience as a coach but nothing above a position coach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Artesian_86 said: I would love ARE, but who knows how solid his source is in athletics…. One of my fondest and crazy memories when we were roommates (1990-92 at Woodbridge Apartments)… We had a huge party and he invited several IU players …I had a Foosball table and they were all play us. It was Matt Nover, Pat Knight, Pat Graham and Brian Evans. Pat Graham was on my balcony throwing wood of our deck (we had a fireplace) and people were complaining and called the cops. Matt Nover was absolutely hammered and threw up all over my bathroom floor and forgot his wallet. He came back the next day to get it…lol!! Are you drinking now? lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, Parakeet Jones said: I loved ARE as a player, but that scares me. He’s never even been a coordinator. I’m pretty sure this is the same scenario as Cam Cameron, NFL experience as a coach but nothing above a position coach Cam was a pretty proven OC by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, thirdgenhoosier said: Cam was a pretty proven OC by that point. Nope, just double checked. He was the QB coach of the Redskins before taking the IU job. Before that he was a QB and QB/WR coach at Michigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, thirdgenhoosier said: But Woody had HC experience. ARE hasn’t been a HC or OC. If true this sounds incredibly risky. 2 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: As much as I like and respect ARE, I’m. It liking the idea of making him head coach. It seems like the kind of move that has a much more likelihood of failing than succeeding. 2 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: I loved ARE as a player, but that scares me. He’s never even been a coordinator. I’m pretty sure this is the same scenario as Cam Cameron, NFL experience as a coach but nothing above a position coach I understand the concern... ARE is a leader though, and that's the first box on any coaching resume as far as I'm concerned... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 minute ago, MoyeCowbell said: Are you drinking now? lol I had a few earlier lol…. Man, those were some crazy times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, Artesian_86 said: I had a few earlier lol…. Man, those were some crazy times At IU or earlier? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 I think we have to understand where we are in the pecking order of jobs. Can we poach a guy like Mike Hart or a coordinator from an elite school?? Probably not. We to have to find a guy from within or just go throw the bag at KD. We don't have a Mack Brown hanging around like UNC does. We don't have the NIL juice that other programs have. It's unfortunately going to be a risk hire just because of the world we live in. ARE would check most of my boxes but not all for sure....again unless the bag is thrown at somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I understand the concern... ARE is a leader though, and that's the first box on any coaching resume as far as I'm concerned... Not only is he a leader, he is a tremendous man with great character too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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