Reacher Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Some interesting arguments presented here. Will IU pick up anybody? https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reacher said: Some interesting arguments presented here. Will IU pick up anybody? https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html They are going to set it up where schools are going to start making them sign non-compete clauses. If you are my employee and can leave anytime.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Reacher said: Some interesting arguments presented here. Will IU pick up anybody? https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html i can't imagine dealing with chemistry issues this far into a season. as much as i always wanted as much talent as i could get as a coach, i can't imagine brining a kid in at this point and playing him in front of my guys who had been there all preseason and season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said: They are going to set it up where schools are going to start making them sign non-compete clauses. If you are my employee and can leave anytime.... The thing is, the NCAA and the universities are trying their best to keep from becoming considered employees. I don't see how you can make a non-employee sign a non-compete clause. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Reacher said: Some interesting arguments presented here. Will IU pick up anybody? https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html In a world where most scholarships are one year agreements, the NCAA second transfer rule was never going to hold up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said: They are going to set it up where schools are going to start making them sign non-compete clauses. If you are my employee and can leave anytime.... Something that needs curtailing in the business world not added to the collegiate athletics world! Don’t even get me started about Intellectual Property slavery! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Something that needs curtailing in the business world not added to the collegiate athletics world! Don’t even get me started about Intellectual Property slavery! All I am saying is that these players are pushing things far enough that they are getting close to the "Find Out" side of things. The NCAA or the colleges are eventually going to call them on this stuff. They want to be paid pros without the "rules" that accompany that. Eventually the schools that actually control the market are going to clamp down. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: All I am saying is that these players are pushing things far enough that they are getting close to the "Find Out" side of things. The NCAA or the colleges are eventually going to call them on this stuff. They want to be paid pros without the "rules" that accompany that. Eventually the schools that actually control the market are going to clamp down. I don’t see how schools can make athletes sign non competes if they’re not employees. There’s no way any judge would uphold that. In order for the NCAA to do anything about this, they’d have to acknowledge that they’re employees who are providing labor to their business. I can’t see the NCAA ever doing that willingly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 They need to implement trades in college sports, we need a couple of guards and we find a team needing a big man. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 We need to drop some serious NIL money in front of a couple of Kansas players during pre-game warmups on Saturday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Reacher said: Some interesting arguments presented here. Will IU pick up anybody? https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html Would have to be someone who hadn't played yet this season. I know a PG at So Miss you guys could add... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 How about Luke Brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 6 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said: They are going to set it up where schools are going to start making them sign non-compete clauses. If you are my employee and can leave anytime.... Non-competes are pretty hard to enforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Non-competes are pretty hard to enforce. Rumor on the street is that IU didn't compete against Auburn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, 5fouls said: Rumor on the street is that IU didn't compete against Auburn. i watched the game, i am not sure rumor is the correct word to use there lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 16 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Non-competes are pretty hard to enforce. Yeah, but contracts aren't as hard. Think of the Big 2 breaking away from the NCAA. They can agree between themselves that players get 1 chance to leave and from there no poaching. A kid is free to attend the University if he transfers after that but they become ineligible players in the new Big 2. They can go play in whatever is left of the NCAA but their access to the big money is cut off. Eventually the schools will make moves to protect themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Yeah, but contracts aren't as hard. Think of the Big 2 breaking away from the NCAA. They can agree between themselves that players get 1 chance to leave and from there no poaching. A kid is free to attend the University if he transfers after that but they become ineligible players in the new Big 2. They can go play in whatever is left of the NCAA but their access to the big money is cut off. Eventually the schools will make moves to protect themselves. Maybe, but they’re probably paying them directly at that point which opens up a whole new can of worms for coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 18 hours ago, 5fouls said: Rumor on the street is that IU didn't compete against Auburn. Nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 12/14/2023 at 8:44 AM, NCHoosier32 said: i can't imagine dealing with chemistry issues this far into a season. as much as i always wanted as much talent as i could get as a coach, i can't imagine brining a kid in at this point and playing him in front of my guys who had been there all preseason and season. Can they shoot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 My problem is in high school I can go to 4 different high schools. I can transfer jobs as much as I want. If I’m a coach I can leave as much as I want (with a buyout). Maybe just add an NIL clause that if they leave they have to pay back a certain NIL buyout that is agreed upon between school an athlete but they have ability to transfer once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: My problem is in high school I can go to 4 different high schools. I can transfer jobs as much as I want. If I’m a coach I can leave as much as I want (with a buyout). Maybe just add an NIL clause that if they leave they have to pay back a certain NIL buyout that is agreed upon between school an athlete but they have ability to transfer once a year. Problem is, NIL collectives are structurally independent of schools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Almost comical how these idiot’s destroyed college sports Players wanted the equivalent of a Bowl director salary or 10% of a coaches contract/buyout NCAA spent millions in court fighting to restrain trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, IUfaninIllinois said: My problem is in high school I can go to 4 different high schools. I can transfer jobs as much as I want. If I’m a coach I can leave as much as I want (with a buyout). Maybe just add an NIL clause that if they leave they have to pay back a certain NIL buyout that is agreed upon between school an athlete but they have ability to transfer once a year. There are high school transfer rules. They aren't always super strictly enforced but there are instances where kids have to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_puiu Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said: Yeah, but contracts aren't as hard. Think of the Big 2 breaking away from the NCAA. They can agree between themselves that players get 1 chance to leave and from there no poaching. A kid is free to attend the University if he transfers after that but they become ineligible players in the new Big 2. They can go play in whatever is left of the NCAA but their access to the big money is cut off. Eventually the schools will make moves to protect themselves. Can they though? I think such restrictions would be viewed by the courts the same as the NCAA restrictions, and not valid/enforceable? The NCAA is voluntary organization of universitities... what's the difference other than the number of schools? Or is that a big enough difference? I don't know. IANAL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 There will come a time when a player on a team that is eliminated in the Sweet 16 will be able to transfer to one of the schools that made the Final Four. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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