IowaHoosierFan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 22 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Go get Omoruyi, a couple of really good guards, and if McBacko returns we’re in really good shape. 💪 This would lead to the exact same system we had this year. Maybe it works. Maybe we have the same results. More guards and wings, less bigs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said: Pretty sad that IU fans are in the position of celebrating guys not transferring…but here we are No different than any other program on that front. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Even though Ware had a slightly higher average, Malik was probably our best option when we really needed bucket, so why throw it out to a guard who was likely going to miss. If we get a couple of elite guards who are knock down shooters, then I think he’ll be a willing passer when he’s double teamed. And if they’re really good, he won’t be doubled team as often. I dont' know if i agree with they if we had shooters. I feel like he gets singularly focused at times and he is going to shoot no matter what. He has to have better vision. If he is doubled, he has to kick it out. It doesn't matter if you don't trust them. You can't keep driving into a dbl/triple every time. Its basically the recipe everyone used to put 15+ whoop asses on us. Better ball movement leads to better open shots, spreads the floor and gets him 1:1 where he will feast. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Just now, IowaHoosierFan said: This would lead to the exact same system we had this year. Maybe it works. Maybe we have the same results. More guards and wings, less bigs. Not if we land a couple of elite shooting guards. Omoruyi’s job would be rim protecting and rebounding. Any scoring would be a bonus. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, IUJoe said: No different than any other program on that front. disagree. Good programs aren't exicting when their NBA bound player is coming back. We celebrate bench level players. because that is how badly we're constructed at the time. We can be better. We should be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I dont' know if i agree with they if we had shooters. I feel like he gets singularly focused at times and he is going to shoot no matter what. He has to have better vision. If he is doubled, he has to kick it out. It doesn't matter if you don't trust them. You can't keep driving into a dbl/triple every time. Its basically the recipe everyone used to put 15+ whoop asses on us. Better ball movement leads to better open shots, spreads the floor and gets him 1:1 where he will feast. You can’t double team him, if we have legit scoring treats from the outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Not if we land a couple of elite shooting guards. Omoruyi’s job would be rim protecting and rebounding. Any scoring would be a bonus. SAME OFFENSE. Doesn't work in the NBA, isn't going to work in the NCAA. Stand round offensive sharp shooters might help some but its not a modern offense. It just doesn't lend itself to big time winning. Can we win some games sure. But we're going to get ran out of gyms by good team with modern offensive schemes. We have seen it for 3 years. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Just now, Hoosier4Life53 said: You can’t double team him, if we have legit scoring treats from the outside. we will just have to disagree on this. We had talent the last 3 years and this offense doesn't work in the long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: disagree. Good programs aren't exicting when their NBA bound player is coming back. We celebrate bench level players. because that is how badly we're constructed at the time. We can be better. We should be better. This is the Malik Reneau thread. Nobody’s celebrating a bench player coming back. Any program would celebrate him coming back, and many would have tried to get him if he had gone into the portal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Obie Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Awesome news. He is my mom's favorite player. She thinks he's cute. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 This is good news. I know that he had some issues, but nobody was consistently great all season. As great as Ware can be, he disappointed at times too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedom Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I think it’s awesome he is back. It will help bring in some high level perimeter players knowing there is a serious inside scoring threat. Just my opinion, but Malik could have gone literally anywhere. Woodson just needs to get a high level supporting cast, and figure out how to use them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I am happy he is coming back!! He has some weakness but to ME HE AS IS ABOUT WHERE TDJ WAS AT THIS STAGE OF CAREER!! CAN HE DO WHAT TRAYCE DID? BUT A GREAT FOR IU!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, loviubb said: I am happy he is coming back!! He has some weakness but to ME HE AS IS ABOUT WHERE TDJ WAS AT THIS STAGE OF CAREER!! CAN HE DO WHAT TRAYCE DID? BUT A GREAT FOR IU!! I just don’t think he’s nearly as explosive. Trayce dunked in two games as many times as Reneau has in two years. He’s unfortunately just never going to be athletic and why he can never play the 5 and be a shot blocker. His motor also has to change but I really am glad he’s back because he does some really good things 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 20 minutes ago, Threedom said: I think it’s awesome he is back. It will help bring in some high level perimeter players knowing there is a serious inside scoring threat. Just my opinion, but Malik could have gone literally anywhere. Woodson just needs to get a high level supporting cast, and figure out how to use them. He would have made less NIL almost anywhere else. Why would he leave? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 51 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: SAME OFFENSE. Doesn't work in the NBA, isn't going to work in the NCAA. Stand round offensive sharp shooters might help some but its not a modern offense. It just doesn't lend itself to big time winning. Can we win some games sure. But we're going to get ran out of gyms by good team with modern offensive schemes. We have seen it for 3 years. What’s stopping us from running a modern offense, if we have the right personnel? You’re assuming CMW won’t adapt, if our roster has the necessary pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: What’s stopping us from running a modern offense, if we have the right personnel? You’re assuming CMW won’t adapt, if our roster has the necessary pieces. i think CMW is what's stopping us 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOHoosier Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 27 minutes ago, loviubb said: I am happy he is coming back!! He has some weakness but to ME HE AS IS ABOUT WHERE TDJ WAS AT THIS STAGE OF CAREER!! CAN HE DO WHAT TRAYCE DID? BUT A GREAT FOR IU!! Really good point and I think some of his glaring weaknesses can be improved upon. Just passing the ball out of triple teams will be a good start and I think Malik can become a serviceable to very good three point shooter. Malik’s rebounding will improve dramatically with an improved motor and I think that will happen with more experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: What’s stopping us from running a modern offense, if we have the right personnel? You’re assuming CMW won’t adapt, if our roster has the necessary pieces. CMW would adjust his defense when his team wasn’t figuring it out. He doesn’t adjust things to fit his personnel. He’s an NBA guy where it’s man to man switch defense and ISO offense. Here is two problems with his stubborn thought process. 1. A lot more NBA players stay more than 1-3 years so it’s easier for them to learn defense he runs, the players are typically much higher level of players than what he will realistically try to teach at college level, he will always have lots of new players with how he’s doing things who can’t learn his defense quick enough. 2. With his inside out offense the guards in the nba can make shots at a lot higher of a clip than what we have. He has to stop coaching like an NBA coach if this is going to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 People need to stop with the rim protector stuff. Put him in the post. Lots of these mid majors are running this style with an undersized post guy. On offense run 4/5 out and let it fly. Malik can shoot it. So recruit 6-3 to 6-7 guys. Get 25 3’s up a game and everyone crash the boards. I’d rather see that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedom Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 33 minutes ago, Common Sense said: He would have made less NIL almost anywhere else. Why would he leave? Well, you must know a lot more than I do about what he gets at IU and what every other university in the country could have offered. Whatever the reason, I am glad he will be a Hoosier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 17 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i think CMW is what's stopping us We’ll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Malik mentioned he came back because he loves it here and big NIL. I’m sure he was encouraged to say that. He’s recruiting with the NIL statement imho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom White Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 28 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: CMW would adjust his defense when his team wasn’t figuring it out. He doesn’t adjust things to fit his personnel. He’s an NBA guy where it’s man to man switch defense and ISO offense. To be fair, he did switch to a zone defense in some cases late in the year. Hopefully part of a sign of understanding the need to make changes on the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, IUfaninIllinois said: I just don’t think he’s nearly as explosive. Trayce dunked in two games as many times as Reneau has in two years. He’s unfortunately just never going to be athletic and why he can never play the 5 and be a shot blocker. His motor also has to change but I really am glad he’s back because he does some really good things TDJ CAME FROM IND. MALIK JUST GOT HERE A COUPLE YRS. AGO!! AND BB IS ONLY A GAME IN 49 OTHER STATES!!🏀🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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