CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 http://scout.com/college/indiana/Article/Big-Ten-Hoop-2017-18-Preseason-power-ranking-105898654 1. MSU 2. Minnesota 3. Maryland 4. Northwestern 5. Purdue 6. Wisconsin 7. Indiana Key Returnees: Robert Johnson, De'Ron Davis, Josh Newkirk, Juwan Morgan, Devonte Green, Curtis Jones, Freddie McSwain Significant losses: Thomas Bryant (NBA), OG Anunoby (NBA), James Blackmon (NBA) Impact additions: F Collin Hartman (medical redshirt), SF Justin Smith (94), PF Clifton Moore (102), 2G Al Durham (NR) Comment: Taking care of the basketball and point guard remain a question but this is a more experienced team than IU has usually fielded. Hoosiers may start a pair of fifth-year seniors (Hartman and Newkirk), a four-year starter (Johnson), another returning starter (Morgan) and have a promising soph in the middle in Davis. The age of this team should help this win close games. Defense has been a problem for awhile but now you bring in a proven, defensive minded coach in Archie Miller. Plus the NBA departures who played all season weren't exactly known as good defenders. Getting Green and/or Jones to step up would go a long way to making this an NCAA team. 8. Michigan 9. Iowa 10. Penn State 11. Illinois 12. OSU 13. Nebraska 14. Rutger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I am willing to go with this since we really do have some questions...how will Hartman come off his injury? Can some of our previous year's B players step up? Freshman impact? Really wish OG or Bryant would have stayed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 13 hours ago, Colonialcrester said: I am willing to go with this since we really do have some questions...how will Hartman come off his injury? Can some of our previous year's B players step up? Freshman impact? Really wish OG or Bryant would have stayed... I think we will defend better than we have in many years and our experience level is also great. I think we have a much higher ceiling than anything the media is talking about. By the way, why is @bluegrassIU your profile picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: I think we will defend better than we have in many years and our experience level is also great. I think we have a much higher ceiling than anything the media is talking about. By the way, why is @bluegrassIU your profile picture? That pic was when I just woke up. Hadn't even put my face on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 We do have some good parts. We have good experience. We have a new energy. One thing I don't see is having is a go to scorer. Maybe one will develop, maybe we will be so balanced we don't need one. But it sure is nice when you have a player or two that you can put the ball in his hands and say "go get some buckets" when the offense breaks down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Maryland seems high at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 55 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: We do have some good parts. We have good experience. We have a new energy. One thing I don't see is having is a go to scorer. Maybe one will develop, maybe we will be so balanced we don't need one. But it sure is nice when you have a player or two that you can put the ball in his hands and say "go get some buckets" when the offense breaks down. I think Davis and Johnson both have a chance to be our go-to guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Agree with blue-boy. Maryland is too high. IU needs to be top 4 or I will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I like the new name, blue-boy. I''ll that that'll catch on..... It's early, hard for me to say where IU will end up. 7 at this point seems fair, but if that experience and the new players gel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Minnesota at #2? I don't think that much of Little Ricky as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Switch Minnesota and Maryland with Northwestern and Purdue, and this seems like a pretty reasonable list. Although I think IU can definitely get in the top 4 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY hoosier Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 If Archie is the coach we all hope he is, top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 So many questions with this squad. I think we'll surprise the experts though. We aren't deep but I like having so many upperclassmen with experience. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 There is definitely a chip on the shoulder of some of these guys. Robert Johnson and Colin Hartman leading the way. I think Newkirk and Morgan follow right in line as far as that leadership and chip goes. There is going to be a new attitude and leadership. Most of you have heard this but the comments from Hartman on JMV about a month ago was basically, "I told the guys if I come back, I'm coming back to win." And they said they are in. And that was solidifying in his decision to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I know Minnesota had a good year last year and they have some guys back, but I have to see it from them again before I'm a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 To be honest, I really don't have a good feel for how we'll end up. I suspect we'll start off slow as the team learns CAM's system and learns how to play without OG, JBJ and Bryant, and then plays strong, barring injury, down the stretch, revealing better how the team will be under CAM. Our team D should be significantly better, OG's loss notwithstanding. We have shooters. We have very good veterans. On court leadership, how the team gels under the new system and coaching overall, how Rob plays on ball, who steps up after Bryant's departure -- how DD and Morgan play, and how much growth we see from our sophs probably determine if we're top 4 or top 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 To me, it's MSU and then everybody else. It'd be a huge upset if they don't win the conference. I don't think Maryland should be 3. If I had to rank, I'd go as follows: 1. MSU 2. Minnesota 3. Purdue 4. Northwestern 5. Maryland 6. Michigan 7. Wisconsin 8. IU 9. Iowa 10. Penn State 11. Illinois 12. Ohio State 13. Nebraska 14. Rutgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 ^^^^ Boiler . In the house ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: ^^^^ Boiler . In the house ! You know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: You know it! Did you shut the lights out when you left over there? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, rico said: Did you shut the lights out when you left over there? LOL What happened over there? I must have missed the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yep, you missed something. I am sure one of the mods will fill you in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 It's been addressed in another thread somewhere. Hopefully you will find it as you catch up on your reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snozzwangers_und_covfefe Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 We do return three key players from a Big Ten title team. Sure, it wasn't last year but why is that less valuable experience than what some of the other returners in the conference have? I think our issue last year was coaching and chemistry more than. Anything, assuming those are addressed then what is actually better about these teams, sans MSU? Wisconsin's best player is a liability at the end of the game. Iowa's sophomores seem impressive, but life gets hard when you don't have a 20 PPG guy. Purdue is similar. They've got some nice role players, but Caleb Swanigan made everyone much better. And let's be real, Matt Painter has shown when he doesn't have players competing for CPOTY his teams are average. Anyone really think Vince Edwards can carry Purdue to a high level like Swanigan, Johnson or Moore? I sure don't. Michigan lost as much as we did two years ago. Unless the kid from UK can pick up where Walton left off that was a huge loss from a team that really wasn't that good most of the season anyway. Northwestern will be tough, but surely no one actually thinks they have better talent? If Archie was the right hire over a guy like Collins, then he should have us playing greater than the sum of our parts much like Collins does. Only our parts are better than theirs. This team has experience, toughness and they're hungry. We will finish top 3 in conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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