Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: How would you know how well card fans travel to non-regional venues? Cardinals absolutely have national pull. How would I know? Common sense and two working eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: I just spit out my morning diet dew. Very well played I drink real Dew in the morning. Probably why I continue to gain weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I drink real Dew in the morning. Probably why I continue to gain weight. The diet dew slows down the weight gain but that about all. The 6 or so slices of pizza negate the diet dew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 On JMV last night Tommy John was on there and JMV asked him what he thought of baseball today and he said he no longer is interested in watching the product he sees on the field today. He said he has not watched a game or even the world series for a few years. He hates how they handle pitchers today and all the pitching changes that go along today. He said managers in his day would keep the pitcher in until he could go no longer and let the batters let them know hen the pitcher needed to be taken out. Tommy said that after his surgery he went 7 innings in his 3rd start in spring training that year but today they don't let pitchers pitch any longer. he laughed at the notion of a pitch count or any of that for major league pitchers and think it does more harm than good. He said that kids today needs to learn to pitch and not just go out and try to throw as hard as they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: How would you know how well card fans travel to non-regional venues? Cardinals absolutely have national pull. Well here is one write-up that talks about certain metrics. Of course the results in it are debatable... https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/esma/2017/06/04/mlb-fan-base-and-brand-rankings-2017/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Contreras off the IL and Addison Russell gets demoted to AAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Contreras off the IL and Addison Russell gets demoted to AAA So they call Russell up. Play him pretty much everyday and then send him back down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, rico said: So they call Russell up. Play him pretty much everyday and then send him back down? I think Joe just lined em up in the San Francisco visitors locker room and said, "Men, everyone who's not going to Iowa today, take one step forward. Not so fast, Russell." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Rizzo gets tossed. Bryant leaves game with injury. Only reason Chatwood wasn't optioned to AAA with Russell today was because Lester was sick. Anyone who knows Lester he had to be really, really sick not to pitch. Cubs up 4-1 but boy....hope this Bryant thing isn't serious. Just watched video where he was wincing when swinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Reds lose their 23 one run game today at Milwaukee losing 5-4. Reds had two more players leave the game today in Senzel and their 4th catcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Reds lose their 23 one run game today at Milwaukee losing 5-4. Reds had two more players leave the game today in Senzel and their 4th catcher. Darn it. Was pulling for you guys today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Darn it. Was pulling for you guys today. Had 4-2 lead going into the bottom of the 5th but gave up 3 runs to go behind 5-4. I know you have to give players the day off but it was hard not to see Suarez out there to start the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Had 4-2 lead going into the bottom of the 5th but gave up 3 runs to go behind 5-4. I know you have to give players the day off but it was hard not to see Suarez out there to start the game. That pissed me off not having Gino in the game today...They got an off day tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, rico said: That pissed me off not having Gino in the game today...They got an off day tomorrow. The dude is absolutely on fire. Unless he had something going on like raging diarrhea, that is an absolutely stupid move by Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, 5fouls said: The dude is absolutely on fire. Unless he had something going on like raging diarrhea, that is an absolutely stupid move by Bell. He was fine I far as I know...and he is a Brewer freaking killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, 5fouls said: The dude is absolutely on fire. Unless he had something going on like raging diarrhea, that is an absolutely stupid move by Bell. Just another in long line of stupid moves by this idiot manager. The only thing saving him was that Suarez replacement Van Meter started the game going 3 for 3 with a Homerun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Cubs win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 12 hours ago, rico said: Cubs win. For the uninitiated, the "other" Cubs victory song (circa 1969) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 I don't think Joey Cora ever watched Whitey Herzog manage In the 80s, Whitey Herzog use to do this all the time with Ken Dayley and Jeff Lahti in late inning left-right-left situations. Normally he'd bring in Dayley, get one out, and the put Dayley in an outfield slot and bring in Lahti for the right handed batter. Then back to Dayley (replacing him with a real outfielder) for the 2nd left hander. Not a Cardinal fan by any stretch, but Whitey Herzog is one of my favorite managers of all time. I loved it when he did unconventional stuff like that, and I can't ever remember it backfiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I don't think Joey Cora ever watched Whitey Herzog manage In the 80s, Whitey Herzog use to do this all the time with Ken Dayley and Jeff Lahti in late inning left-right-left situations. Normally he'd bring in Dayley, get one out, and the put Dayley in an outfield slot and bring in Lahti for the right handed batter. Then back to Dayley (replacing him with a real outfielder) for the 2nd left hander. Not a Cardinal fan by any stretch, but Whitey Herzog is one of my favorite managers of all time. I loved it when he did unconventional stuff like that, and I can't ever remember it backfiring. What is sad about that article is that the umpires were confused as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I don't think Joey Cora ever watched Whitey Herzog manage In the 80s, Whitey Herzog use to do this all the time with Ken Dayley and Jeff Lahti in late inning left-right-left situations. Normally he'd bring in Dayley, get one out, and the put Dayley in an outfield slot and bring in Lahti for the right handed batter. Then back to Dayley (replacing him with a real outfielder) for the 2nd left hander. Not a Cardinal fan by any stretch, but Whitey Herzog is one of my favorite managers of all time. I loved it when he did unconventional stuff like that, and I can't ever remember it backfiring. This is an article showing very rare Maddon move vs Reds years ago...very similar in theory to Rays/Red Sox.... https://www.mlb.com/cut4/three-cubs-pitchers-play-left-field-in-cubs-15-inning-win-over-the-reds/c-186835518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: This is an article showing very rare Maddon move vs Reds years ago...very similar in theory to Rays/Red Sox.... https://www.mlb.com/cut4/three-cubs-pitchers-play-left-field-in-cubs-15-inning-win-over-the-reds/c-186835518 20 minutes ago, rico said: What is sad about that article is that the umpires were confused as well. Another reason for me to hate the DH rule. Takes a lot of strategy out if the game. Bunting is a lost art. Double switches are rare. Advancing runners is almost unheard of. Chicks dig the long ball. I know...I'm a baseball crumudgeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Another reason for me to hate the DH rule. Takes a lot of strategy out if the game. Bunting is a lost art. Double switches are rare. Advancing runners is almost unheard of. Chicks dig the long ball. I know...I'm a baseball crumudgeon. You left out stolen bases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Another reason for me to hate the DH rule. Takes a lot of strategy out if the game. Bunting is a lost art. Double switches are rare. Advancing runners is almost unheard of. Chicks dig the long ball. I know...I'm a baseball crumudgeon. The thing that is going on today that I really hate in baseball is how they use pitchers today. You are lucky to get 5 or 6 innings from your starters today and it just makes for longer games with all the pitching changes. It also seems like the pitches per at bat is going way up as well and it is causing the pitch counts to go up as well. In the 3 game series with the Reds and Brewers there were over 1,000 pitches combined in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: The thing that is going on today that I really hate in baseball is how they use pitchers today. You are lucky to get 5 or 6 innings from your starters today and it just makes for longer games with all the pitching changes. It also seems like the pitches per at bat is going way up as well and it is causing the pitch counts to go up as well. In the 3 game series with the Reds and Brewers there were over 1,000 pitches combined in the series. I don't like the length of games and wish there were limitations on how many pitchers could be used. With that said. I see no difference in using any and all pitchers/strategy to win a game....the very same way I don't have a problem with a coaches in basketball using timeouts, substitutions, fouls,etc....to win a game in the final minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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