btownqb Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUskim said: I don’t know about bubba but I know for Gus they blocked him from being able to interview for any DC positions elsewhere. Bubba had a top 2 SPT last year and a top 8 SPT this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Bubba had a top 2 SPT last year and a top 8 SPT this year. I did just read that they asked him about staff and he didn’t commit to anybody yet, but I guess that could just be coach speak and they already have a hand shake deal with them to stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Lou Anarumo stays with the Bengals as DC as Cardinals hire Gannon from Philly as new HC. Edited February 14, 2023 by jv1972iu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Seeking6 said: So it's basically going to be a bidding war between Texans and Colts IF and only IF they think Bryce Young is so much better than Stroud. I can't imagine Steichen taking the gig unless the assurances were there they'll get their QB. Don't sleep on Carolina. Have no clue what they could offer but won't be surprised if they decide to jump into things either. Problem there though is Bears want picks but also want Carter or Anderson they can't go further back than 4th. And everyone knows they want Carter or Anderson. It is honestly laughable what a lot of Bears fans seem to be so sure is going to happen. The Bears can either get a haul or get their generational defender, not both. As much as the Bears know teams need QBs, teams also have leverage knowing what the Bears need. The question is are the Bears more willing to miss out on elite talent at a position of desperate need for them more than (insert team) is willing to miss out on a QB that is less of an elite talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Pretty classless from JuJu IMO Eagles very much took the high road in the post game comments, guess that was a one way street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Pretty classless from JuJu IMO Eagles very much took the high road in the post game comments, guess that was a one way street. Wow. That's all I can say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 10 hours ago, jv1972iu said: Lou Anarumo stays with the Bengals as DC as Cardinals hire Gannon from Philly as new HC. AZ. is a dumpster fire. You have a cry baby QB who needs help so you hire a Defensive coach who couldnt make changes with the best defense to stop a team in the biggest game of the year. Great hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Indykev said: AZ. is a dumpster fire. You have a cry baby QB who needs help so you hire a Defensive coach who couldnt make changes with the best defense to stop a team in the biggest game of the year. Great hire. What if.... There was actually no adjustment to be made? I mean, if you don't have anyone to matchup with Kelce, that is pretty difficult to hide from and they got relatively no pressure. In my world, good offense beats good defense. IMO, that is true in the NFL, as well. I agree about Kyler. And I didn't have that opinion, necessarily, before the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 10 hours ago, KoB2011 said: And everyone knows they want Carter or Anderson. It is honestly laughable what a lot of Bears fans seem to be so sure is going to happen. The Bears can either get a haul or get their generational defender, not both. As much as the Bears know teams need QBs, teams also have leverage knowing what the Bears need. The question is are the Bears more willing to miss out on elite talent at a position of desperate need for them more than (insert team) is willing to miss out on a QB that is less of an elite talent? Given that the QB position is the single most important position in all of sports I'd say the answer is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Given that the QB position is the single most important position in all of sports I'd say the answer is easy. Yeah, Bears fans definitely seem to think they can have their cake and eat it too, so I’m sure you do think that. There are plenty of examples of drafts with these caliber QBs and teams not trading up for them. Add in the elite defenders, which if the Bears are smart means it would cost more to move up, and I think it’s far from a given the Bears trade the first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Yeah, Bears fans definitely seem to think they can have their cake and eat it too, so I’m sure you do think that. There are plenty of examples of drafts with these caliber QBs and teams not trading up for them. Add in the elite defenders, which if the Bears are smart means it would cost more to move up, and I think it’s far from a given the Bears trade the first pick. Time will tell. Even when people don't think a team is crazy or desperate enough to move up they always do. This year will be no different but I expect to involve player or players from a team instead of just picks. I'll say what I said when Bears got #1 pick secured. Colts move up in addition to trading Buckner to Bears for 1st pick. See no reason to change my prediction now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Time will tell. Even when people don't think a team is crazy or desperate enough to move up they always do. This year will be no different but I expect to involve player or players from a team instead of just picks. I'll say what I said when Bears got #1 pick secured. Colts move up in addition to trading Buckner to Bears for 1st pick. See no reason to change my prediction now. I definitely see why the Bears would do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: What if.... There was actually no adjustment to be made? I mean, if you don't have anyone to matchup with Kelce, that is pretty difficult to hide from and they got relatively no pressure. In my world, good offense beats good defense. IMO, that is true in the NFL, as well. I agree about Kyler. And I didn't have that opinion, necessarily, before the season. And actually they did adjust. Kelce torched the Eagles in the 1st quarter and then didn't do much the rest of the game. He only had 21 yards after the 1st. That left other guys open though and a play caller like Reid and QB like Mahomes are too good. You can't take everything away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: And actually they did adjust. Kelce torched the Eagles in the 1st quarter and then didn't do much the rest of the game. He only had 21 yards after the 1st. That left other guys open though and a play caller like Reid and QB like Mahomes are too good. You can't take everything away. Did they adjust... or did they just execute better on Kelce? I honestly don't know. Haven't watched the game in replay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: Did they adjust... or did they just execute better on Kelce? I honestly don't know. Haven't watched the game in replay. Typically I'm with you on the adjust/execute thing. I think fans way overrate "adjustments" and have heard NFL players say as much. I think it was Rob Ninkovich I heard speak on this a few weeks ago and he was saying how halftime adjustments are way overrated by fans and media. In this case though I would think there was some type of change because Kelce was catching balls in the first quarter with nobody within 5-10 yards of him and was torching one of the Eagles LB's. I dont know specifically, but I'd guess in this instance they made some type of change to how they were defending him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: Yeah, Bears fans definitely seem to think they can have their cake and eat it too, so I’m sure you do think that. There are plenty of examples of drafts with these caliber QBs and teams not trading up for them. Add in the elite defenders, which if the Bears are smart means it would cost more to move up, and I think it’s far from a given the Bears trade the first pick. McShay in his mock has the Bears trading #1 to the Colts for picks 4 and 35 this year and next year's 1st round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: Typically I'm with you on the adjust/execute thing. I think fans way overrate "adjustments" and have heard NFL players say as much. I think it was Rob Ninkovich I heard speak on this a few weeks ago and he was saying how halftime adjustments are way overrated by fans and media. In this case though I would think they're some type of change because Kelce was catching balls in the first quarter with nobody within 5-10 yards of him and was torching one of the Eagles LB's. I dont know specifically, but I'd guess in this instance they made some type of change to how they were defending him. Probably so. I will also mention.. the Eagles, through a good portion of that game... had the EXACT recipe to beat KC. Keep Kelce and Mahomes off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: McShay in his mock has the Bears trading #1 to the Colts for picks 4 and 35 this year and next year's 1st round pick. Laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: McShay in his mock has the Bears trading #1 to the Colts for picks 4 and 35 this year and next year's 1st round pick. We will see what happens, but I think that’s an absolutely massive overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: We will see what happens, but I think that’s an absolutely massive overpay. It is funny people think giving up 2 1st round picks and a second round pick is to much to get the top pick. In basketball Minnesota gave up 5 1st round picks for Rudy Gobert who is over 30 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is funny people think giving up 2 1st round picks and a second round pick is to much to get the top pick. In basketball Minnesota gave up 5 1st round picks for Rudy Gobert who is over 30 years old terrible analogy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 To argue giving up 2 1st rd picks and however many 2nd rd picks for B Young or any QB in this draft is a smart play would just be ..... funny. The Twolves haven't made the playoffs in basically my lifetime, so... I try to and stay away from the actions of poor organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 New York trades the rights to Philip Rivers (the fourth pick), the first pick in the third round (Nate Kaeding), a 2005 first round pick (Shawne Merriman) and a 2005 fifth round pick (Jerome Collins) to San Diego for the rights to Manning This is what the Chargers got for Eli Manning trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: New York trades the rights to Philip Rivers (the fourth pick), the first pick in the third round (Nate Kaeding), a 2005 first round pick (Shawne Merriman) and a 2005 fifth round pick (Jerome Collins) to San Diego for the rights to Manning This is what the Chargers got for Eli Manning trade So.... swap picks, 3rd rd, 1st rd, and 5th rd..... if asked to give that up for B Young or any other QB in this draft.... I'd laugh in their face. We'd look like what the Jets did to get Darnold. I don't even think that it's close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 It is just my opinion but the Colts have to come away with either Young or Stroud in this draft. Staying at 4 I don't see getting either because other teams like the Raiders or Panthers will trade up to 1 or 3 or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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