Southern IN Hoosier Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Is Coach Izzo going to get fired? He is losing games and his offense looks terrible. He has missed on a couple recruits as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Michigan State made a change at the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Southern IN Hoosier said: Is Coach Izzo going to get fired? He is losing games and his offense looks terrible. He has missed on a couple recruits as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Michigan State made a change at the end of this year. I have heard from a very reliable source that this is true. Izzo is gone and MSU is going hard after Archie as his replacement and get them back on track! Southern I was just being a smart???. No pun intended. Izzo to me seems tired. Probably a combination of the Covid, all the sexual assault stuff and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Let's see. Izzo whiffed on recruiting TJD, Lander, Duncam, Leal (?), Romeo, and not sure how many others since Archie came to town. Oh yeah, and Furst, Kaufman, and Garcia too I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 While I understand the OP was posting in jest, I do think Izzo is on the down slope of his career...He just doesn't seem to have the fire in the furnace he used to have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Many of us believe Izzo is a great coach, (incl me) even if he might be a sleeze bag personally. But he is proving one of my theories wrong...I used to think Knight believed he could take 5 guys off of a street corner, take 3 weeks to practice and he would be able to beat almost anybody. Guess that isn't true, since Izzo appears to be testing the same theory this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: While I understand the OP was posting in jest, I do think Izzo is on the down slope of his career...He just doesn't seem to have the fire in the furnace he used to have... Who could blame him? Honestly, at this point in my life I would not be interested in a job where I had to kiss teenager's butts every summer and then stroke their over-inflated egos 24/7, 365 in order to earn a paycheck. The fact that the paycheck is several million a year probably helps at first, but after awhile I would think it would get old calling up some kid and begging him to come play for you every day. It is only going to get worse when these kids are able to monetize themselves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Who could blame him? Honestly, at this point in my life I would not be interested in a job where I had to kiss teenager's butts every summer and then stroke their over-inflated egos 24/7, 365 in order to earn a paycheck. The fact that the paycheck is several million a year probably helps at first, but after awhile I would think it would get old calling up some kid and begging him to come play for you every day. It is only going to get worse when these kids are able to monetize themselves too. Point taken...But I've always believed that in almost any profession, some more than others of course, there's the ascent, the plateau, and then the descent...Coaching in particular...RMK suffered it...I think the Texas Tech gig reinvigorated the fire for a time, but he was past his greatness at the end of his IU tenure... He was still damn good, but he had set his own bar pretty high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am ready for Izzo to retire :), but he does have the #9 ranked 2021 recruiting class and the (currently) #2 ranked 2022 recruiting class... I do not think he is throwing in the towel yet. His teams often start slow - even some of his FF teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 oH mY gOd iZZo iS gEtTiNG fIRed !!! cOAch mILLeR NeEDs 15 yEArS!! Maybe if CAM had this resume, he could get 4 or 5 years to build a program without people being impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: oH mY gOd iZZo iS gEtTiNG fIRed !!! cOAch mILLeR NeEDs 15 yEArS!! Maybe if CAM had this resume, he could get 4 or 5 years to build a program without people being impatient. I think you are missing that there was a class from 2010-2014 that peaked at an elite 8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GaloisGroupe said: I think you are missing that there was a class from 2010-2014 that peaked at an elite 8... i will give you that, but he did just come off a National Title Runner up followed up by a Final 4. He then followed that up with a mediocre year, a S16, S16, E8 and then Final 4. Not sure what you're driving at. But if CAM does that, i think i give him a few more year to i guess turn it around? Not exactly sure what you're driving at other than you think CAM needs more time. I wouldn't have used Izzo having 2 mediocre years as the benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: i will give you that, but he did just come off a National Title Runner up followed up by a Final 4. He then followed that up with a mediocre year, a S16, S16, E8 and then Final 4. Not sure what you're driving at. But if CAM does that, i think i give him a few more year to i guess turn it around? Not exactly sure what you're driving at other than you think CAM needs more time. I wouldn't have used Izzo having 2 mediocre years as the benchmark. I was joking! Obviously, Izzo has a very elite run record - I agree with you on this. I remember them always saying about 10 years ago that he never had a 4 year class that did not make the FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Point taken...But I've always believed that in almost any profession, some more than others of course, there's the ascent, the plateau, and then the descent...Coaching in particular...RMK suffered it...I think the Texas Tech gig reinvigorated the fire for a time, but he was past his greatness at the end of his IU tenure... He was still damn good, but he had set his own bar pretty high... Yeah, I completely agree with that. At a certain age I think the push stops because you are content with where you are at and you start thinking of an exit plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: I was joking! Obviously, Izzo has a very elite run record - I agree with you on this. I remember them always saying about 10 years ago that he never had a 4 year class that did not make the FF. gotcha, i didn't get your sarcasm lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: gotcha, i didn't get your sarcasm lol It can be easy to miss on boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Izzo would retire from MSU on his own terms when he thinks it's time. He's the best coach MSU has ever had. Their legendary coach Heathcote won 61% as MSU coach, and Izzo's winning % is 72%. Unless he's in legal trouble of any sort, I don't think he's going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: While I understand the OP was posting in jest, I do think Izzo is on the down slope of his career...He just doesn't seem to have the fire in the furnace he used to have... Was he posting in jest? Izzo needs support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Southern IN Hoosier said: Is Coach Izzo going to get fired? He is losing games and his offense looks terrible. He has missed on a couple recruits as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Michigan State made a change at the end of this year. I think you should post this another two or three times. Twice already wasn’t enough spam yet. We need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: oH mY gOd iZZo iS gEtTiNG fIRed !!! cOAch mILLeR NeEDs 15 yEArS!! Maybe if CAM had this resume, he could get 4 or 5 years to build a program without people being impatient. Archie has one of those "NCAA Division 1 Cancelled" seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Archie has one of those "NCAA Division 1 Cancelled" seasons. not quite as impressive but it is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 this is a silly thread. i kind of hate that i am making it another post longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: this is a silly thread. i kind of hate that i am making it another post longer. Are you suggesting that Izzo is not one loss from being let go by MSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GaloisGroupe said: Are you suggesting that Izzo is not one loss from being let go by MSU? that's what i am suggesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: that's what i am suggesting So you are saying MSU has lowered expectations? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: that's what i am suggesting You play the straight almost as well as IU Scott. 😂😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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