IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, bronkonagurski said: Well we have already had over 20 years of mostly crap, what is another 4 years? 😜 Who would be the 'right guy' everyone would agree upon? I don't think any head coach we have hired full-time since the day RMK was fired has been universally accepted as the right choice in the moment. It seems more like a hindsight assessment where does the guy do the job or not. Just not sure who realistically IU would hire as the next coach that would have most of the choir nodding their heads in agreement. I think there is a 'leap of faith' element involved no matter how you cut it. Guys that are unrealistic like Stevens or Donnovan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: The one about tired of losing to Purdue Yep. I'm sick of an 8 and 10 record, tired of losing to Purdue. Except this time, I'm tired of losing to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: The one about tired of losing to Purdue Poor Greg Graham, the only player name called out in that rant lol. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 If we miss the tourney this year, he has to go, right? That's 0 for four in his tenure here. That's what any power 5 school who had any expectations would do. This is Indiana though. They are timid and conservative. They never make bold moves. They never go out and refuse to take no for an answer. They are also cheap. And they are way to concerned with optics So CAM is probably back next year regardless I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. I find it fascinating that Michigan had a successful coach leave them at a very bad time and they pull Juwan Howard out of their ass and he has them as a number 1 seed while Indiana continues to flounder. Kentucky makes one bad hire and then immediately rectifies it by hiring another home run. Kansas loses Roy Williams and then rips Self away from Illinois. Don't tell there is no one out there. Don't tell me it can't be done unless you mean by Indiana. Because other schools who care enough about winning get it done.. Indiana, as a university, needs to get serious or STFU about college basketball because nobody takes them seriously in any capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: If we miss the tourney this year, he has to go, right? That's 0 for four in his tenure here. That's what any power 5 school who had any expectations would do. This is Indiana though. They are timid and conservative. They never make bold moves. They never go out and refuse to take no for an answer. They are also cheap. And they are way to concerned with optics So CAM is probably back next year regardless I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. I find it fascinating that Michigan had a successful coach leave them at a very bad time and they pull Juwan Howard out of their ass and he has them as a number 1 seed while Indiana continues to flounder. Kentucky makes one bad hire and then immediately rectifies it by hiring another home run. Kansas loses Roy Williams and then rips Self away from Illinois. Don't tell there is no one out there. Don't tell me it can't be done unless you mean by Indiana. Because other schools who care enough about winning get it done.. Indiana, as a university, needs to get serious or STFU about college basketball because nobody takes them seriously in any capacity. i think we'll miss the tourney and i think he will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maud'Dib Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i think we'll miss the tourney and i think he will be back. I agree. What a fun place this will be over the off season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: If we miss the tourney this year, he has to go, right? That's 0 for four in his tenure here. That's what any power 5 school who had any expectations would do. This is Indiana though. They are timid and conservative. They never make bold moves. They never go out and refuse to take no for an answer. They are also cheap. And they are way to concerned with optics So CAM is probably back next year regardless I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. I find it fascinating that Michigan had a successful coach leave them at a very bad time and they pull Juwan Howard out of their ass and he has them as a number 1 seed while Indiana continues to flounder. Kentucky makes one bad hire and then immediately rectifies it by hiring another home run. Kansas loses Roy Williams and then rips Self away from Illinois. Don't tell there is no one out there. Don't tell me it can't be done unless you mean by Indiana. Because other schools who care enough about winning get it done.. Indiana, as a university, needs to get serious or STFU about college basketball because nobody takes them seriously in any capacity. PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i think we'll miss the tourney and i think he will be back. I don't know which is sadder, this fact or the fact that Indiana is completely incapable of making the right hire even if he wasn't back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: If we miss the tourney this year, he has to go, right? That's 0 for four in his tenure here. That's what any power 5 school who had any expectations would do. This is Indiana though. They are timid and conservative. They never make bold moves. They never go out and refuse to take no for an answer. They are also cheap. And they are way to concerned with optics So CAM is probably back next year regardless I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. I find it fascinating that Michigan had a successful coach leave them at a very bad time and they pull Juwan Howard out of their ass and he has them as a number 1 seed while Indiana continues to flounder. Kentucky makes one bad hire and then immediately rectifies it by hiring another home run. Kansas loses Roy Williams and then rips Self away from Illinois. Don't tell there is no one out there. Don't tell me it can't be done unless you mean by Indiana. Because other schools who care enough about winning get it done.. Indiana, as a university, needs to get serious or STFU about college basketball because nobody takes them seriously in any capacity. 1 for 4. But realistically, who do we hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: No thank you, his team is getting killed today at LSU and that is a game between two of the biggest scums of college basketball. Speaking of Wade havent noticed his biggest fan @FKIM01 around much lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. . Some revisionist history there https://factoryofsadness.co/2017/06/10/ohio-state-called-archie-miller-coaching-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: That's 0 for four in his tenure here. You know, I don't mind spirited debate. In fact, I kinda like it. But when straight up BS is posted, I'm calling it. NO TEAM made the NCAA tournament last year. Nobody. Projections had us in, but there was no tournament...so, how COULD we have made it? And this year, even after today, most still have us in... If your going to lie to enhance your position, please put LIE in quotation marks before the idiotic statement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: If we miss the tourney this year, he has to go, right? That's 0 for four in his tenure here. That's what any power 5 school who had any expectations would do. This is Indiana though. They are timid and conservative. They never make bold moves. They never go out and refuse to take no for an answer. They are also cheap. And they are way to concerned with optics So CAM is probably back next year regardless I find it fascinating that Ohio State, a traditional football power, was more determined to get the basketball coach they wanted than Indiana has ever been in getting theirs. I find it fascinating that Michigan had a successful coach leave them at a very bad time and they pull Juwan Howard out of their ass and he has them as a number 1 seed while Indiana continues to flounder. Kentucky makes one bad hire and then immediately rectifies it by hiring another home run. Kansas loses Roy Williams and then rips Self away from Illinois. Don't tell there is no one out there. Don't tell me it can't be done unless you mean by Indiana. Because other schools who care enough about winning get it done.. Indiana, as a university, needs to get serious or STFU about college basketball because nobody takes them seriously in any capacity. Billy Donnovan turned down UK twice and it took UNC 3 times to finally get Roy Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: Some revisionist history there https://factoryofsadness.co/2017/06/10/ohio-state-called-archie-miller-coaching-job/ I'm talking about Holtman, who said no first before saying yes. I find it incredible that they even called CAM after Indiana hired him. That is ballsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, ChiHoosier said: 1 for 4. But realistically, who do we hire? The best we could get would be Beard from TT but truly believe he won't leave Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: I'm talking about Holtman, who said no first before saying yes. I find it incredible that they even called CAM after Indiana hired him. That is ballsy. So what was on Holtmann's resume that looked like he would be a great coach, His two stops before OSU he was 114-86. If IU hired him with that record people would be going nuts. it is a lot easier now to say we should have hired him but I know I wouldn't have been thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: You know, I don't mind spirited debate. In fact, I kinda like it. But when straight up BS is posted, I'm calling it. NO TEAM made the NCAA tournament last year. Nobody. Projections had us in, but there was no tournament...so, how COULD we have made it? And this year, even after today, most still have us in... If your going to lie to enhance your position, please put LIE in quotation marks before the idiotic statement... And what are your excuses for the state of the program for the other three years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Billy Donnovan turned down UK twice and it took UNC 3 times to finally get Roy Williams I think Saban turned Alabama down three times. You have to put your chips and your nuts on the table and push them in and go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: The best we could get would be Beard from TT but truly believe he won't leave Texas. I heard rumblings he was gonna be the Texas coach if Shaka got canned after last season but it seems Shaka has bought him a couple more years and I believe that he's gonna be waiting it out. Realistically you got Dane Fife, John Beilein (70 year old who wasn't a passionate recruiter), and ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: And what are your excuses for the state of the program for the other three years? This year isn't finished, so you're down to 2. His first year, I'll give you, but it was his first year. Second year, as I remember, we basically had a play in game with Ohio State in the BTT. We lost, and went to the NIT. As for last year, you just tried to BS everybody who doesn't know any better...agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: You ought to hit Leary up for a hot refrigerator... I was in school with him and met him once through a mutual friend. He was a nice guy. Not cocky for being on the team or anything. I was shocked when he was arrested. I was definitely disappointed and definitely did not expect that. He did his time and I hope he does well going forward. As a player, he got hot in the Duke game but overall he had pretty marginal ability for the B1G. Sometimes the ex players lose self awareness of their own statures as players. Glory Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Sea Turtle said: I think Saban turned Alabama down three times. You have to put your chips and your nuts on the table and push them in and go for it. I am not talking in one year but every time there was a change at UNC they tried Williams but he turned them down. The only reason he left was that Dean finally asked him to. Also if Williams was not an Alumni and former assistant coach he would still be at UNC. So why wasn't UK ever able to get Billy Donnovan because nobody can keep turning teams down according to you. Some think the only thing that matters is money but more and more it is about fit and happiness. That is why Brad Stevens won't come back to the college game and why Mark Few is still at Gonzaga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHoosier Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: This year isn't finished, so you're down to 2. His first year, I'll give you, but it was his first year. Second year, as I remember, we basically had a play in game with Ohio State in the BTT. We lost, and went to the NIT. As for last year, you just tried to BS everybody who doesn't know any better...agreed? Second year was inexcusable. 12-2 start to finish 17-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IU Scott Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, ChiHoosier said: I heard rumblings he was gonna be the Texas coach if Shaka got canned after last season but it seems Shaka has bought him a couple more years and I believe that he's gonna be waiting it out. Realistically you got Dane Fife, John Beilein (70 year old who wasn't a passionate recruiter), and ....... I know it wouldn't happen but hire Keith Smart and bring Beilein to be his assistant. That will never happen since Beilein has never been an assistant coach in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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