KoB2011 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Hey Mike...Have you ever heard of a team taking on it's coach's personality? Stop pointing the finger and start pointing the thumb. Woodson played for a coach who was known for letting the team dictate the culture instead of the coach dictating it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 So maybe…just maybe Fife knew something. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) Like I stated in my original post in this thread, my preference would be for this to work out for another couple of years before a natural handoff. The question I am wrestling with right now though is, can Woody generate enough buzz in the portal to bring in the types of players we need to turn this around next year? That worries me. The thought of another lost season is depressing and sickening. Edited February 3 by Parakeet Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Hypothetically speaking…I’ll just say it. Woody was the dude to turn around Archie’s mess and make IU attractive again. With NIL, IU needs to move in a more modern direction. I may catch hell for this, but offer Chris Beard whatever. The dude wins. This fan base craves winning. That’s what he does. Wouldn’t lose steam in recruiting at all…modernize the program. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: So maybe…just maybe Fife knew something. Fife is still out of coaching. Whatever he did, he did to himself. Reminder #7000 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Coach Robby said: Hypothetically speaking…I’ll just say it. Woody was the dude to turn around Archie’s mess and make IU attractive again. With NIL, IU needs to move in a more modern direction. I may catch hell for this, but offer Chris Beard whatever. The dude wins. This fan base craves winning. That’s what he does. Wouldn’t lose steam in recruiting at all…modernize the program. It will never happen but IU would immediately be back to a level we’d all be thrilled with. Dude has Ole Miss at 18-3 in year one. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Fife is still out of coaching. Whatever he did, he did to himself. Reminder #7000 Maybe, but I’d rather have Fife coaching right now than Woodson. Fife would at least give a crap, show some fire. But I’m starting to wonder if Fife knew what was going to happen and wasn’t a “yes man”. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Fife is still out of coaching. Whatever he did, he did to himself. Reminder #7000 Don’t need a reminder. I’m well aware he’s still not coaching. Nonetheless, program took a hit in terms of coaching and development with he and Matta gone and that’s undeniable Edited February 3 by Hoosier987 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 50 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am so tired of his excuses. He needs to look in the mirror because he is the main problem I would love to hear what he thinks has gone wrong in terms of his performance. He never really addresses what he could do better aside from “not getting them over the hump”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 And people think kids are lining up to play here. Posted this for the "we didnt need him anyway, bigger fish to fry", crowd 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 27 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Fife is still out of coaching. Whatever he did, he did to himself. Reminder #7000 +1, If we are doing what ifs, maybe we should have hired Lewis instead of Fife. He sounded like he would have taken it if we had kept pursuing Edited February 3 by GaloisGroupe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 As Don Meredith would say, “turn out the lights, the party’s over” 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Anyone but "yes man" Dolson. Anyone but a Woodson. I hate to say it but I told you. I was right about Crean and right about Archie. I've given solutions every time. No one listens. Beard, Pearl, Drew, and Marshall and the solutions right now. There's your answer Scott. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Anyone but "yes man" Dolson. Anyone but a Woodson. I hate to say it but I told you. I was right about Crean and right about Archie. I've given solutions every time. No one listens. Beard, Pearl, Drew, and Marshall and the solutions right now. There's your answer Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Agree on Marshall not getting another shot, the rest of that list is worth exploring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 I've said this consistently the last couple of weeks. I think Woodson deserves another year, but I think whether he deserves another year is irrelevant and completely the wrong question. If you're the AD or whoever is making these decisions, the only question that matters is, "do you think Mike Woodson and his staff are the people to turn this around in a big way?" If the answer is "no", then you have to clean house after this season. If the answer is "yes", then as the AD I would need an extremely detailed plan from Woodson clearly outlining how he plans to turn it around. If I like the plan then I guess he would get that year that he deserves. If I don't (ie. very little change, need to get them over the hump, etc.) then you also have to make the change. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 We're going to have guys leave this offseason, for a variety of reasons. On the surface, with the portal, fans may think it's no big deal. It is a HUGE deal. The portal should be used to bring in 2-3 players that can mesh with what you have. Needing to overhaul the team and bring in 7-8 is not a recipe for success. It may work for a new coach, but has no chance with a coach already in place. It's very doubtful we can get 7-8 portal commits with this system in place. Transfers aren't going to want to play here based on what they are seeing this season. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Okay I can't take it anymore, fire everyone. The coaches, the ball boy, the ushers, the vendors, the cleaning crew, the parking lot attendants, and IU Scott. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 15 minutes ago, 5fouls said: We're going to have guys leave this offseason, for a variety of reasons. On the surface, with the portal, fans may think it's no big deal. It is a HUGE deal. The portal should be used to bring in 2-3 players that can mesh with what you have. Needing to overhaul the team and bring in 7-8 is not a recipe for success. It may work for a new coach, but has no chance with a coach already in place. It's very doubtful we can get 7-8 portal commits with this system in place. Transfers aren't going to want to play here based on what they are seeing this season. Yeah… There is a scenario, don’t think it’s likely but it isn’t zero, that we have a lot of guys leave, struggle to fill the roster then win like ten games next year. Dolson has to be worried about his job security if he brings Woodson back and that happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Yeah… There is a scenario, don’t think it’s likely but it isn’t zero, that we have a lot of guys leave, struggle to fill the roster then win like ten games next year. Dolson has to be worried about his job security if he brings Woodson back and that happens. That scenario is my greatest fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePaulieWalnuts Posted February 3 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 3 IMO, it’s time to move on but if Dolson wants to give Woodson another year, he needs to be aware that if it fails, he goes down with the ship. As far as candidates go, my list would include three names and three names only. Chris Beard, Bruce Pearl or Scott Drew. No more projects or IU connections. Anything less than one of them and it’s a failure and more of the same. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Coach Robby said: Hypothetically speaking…I’ll just say it. Woody was the dude to turn around Archie’s mess and make IU attractive again. With NIL, IU needs to move in a more modern direction. I may catch hell for this, but offer Chris Beard whatever. The dude wins. This fan base craves winning. That’s what he does. Wouldn’t lose steam in recruiting at all…modernize the program. Beard would be a home run hire 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Although didn’t beard struggle a little at Texas or no?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Beard would be a home run hire No thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoshenFan84 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Beard would be a home run hire Yes please. Either this program needs to be serious about winning or accept that it’s no different than Minnesota. The program was built by Bob Knight, warts and all, so we shouldn’t scoff at a proven winner that also has some warts. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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