Andrew Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Purdue7 said: Smith had a win share/40 of .174 That is Yogi’s career average Yogi wasn’t throwing the ball to a unstoppable 7’4 guy to get easy assists tho lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Andrew said: Yogi wasn’t throwing the ball to a unstoppable 7’4 guy to get easy assists tho lmao And Yogi was on two teams that weren't that great, which impacts win share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 17 hours ago, Purdue7 said: Smith had a win share/40 of .174 That is Yogi’s career average Stats are for nerds and this is an example why. Yogi would have eaten Smith for lunch. The win share stat is lame as hell because it all revolves around your team winning and you being on the floor. Every Purdue player (and most Indiana players this year) has an inflated win share because of 1 guy on the team. Yogi>Smith and it isn't even close. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said: Stats are for nerds and this is an example why. Yogi would have eaten Smith for lunch. The win share stat is lame as hell because it all revolves around your team winning and you being on the floor. Every Purdue player (and most Indiana players this year) has an inflated win share because of 1 guy on the team. Yogi>Smith and it isn't even close. Never said smith was in Yogi’s class Saying Cupps is way better than Smith is quite a take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Never said smith was in Yogi’s class Saying Cupps is way better than Smith is quite a take I withhold judgment like that until the guys are actually on the court. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Saying Cupps is way better than Smith is quite a take Well, Gabe will certainly get more NIL money @Billingsley99 made the observation that Cupps was better than Smith some time ago...And he's got a coaching background...I'll take his word for it... Edited March 27, 2023 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Well, Gabe will certainly get more NIL money @Billingsley99 made the obeservation that Cupps was better than Smith some time ago...And he's got a coaching background...I'll take his word for it... $400K is what Pack went for could you imagine him in candy stripes…..I sure could in gold & black FF for $400K. That’s a bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: $400K is what Pack went for could you imagine him in candy stripes…..I sure could in gold & black FF for $400K. That’s a bargain 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Madison22 Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Purdue7 said: Saying Cupps is way better than Smith is quite a take "Cupps is way better than Smith." ~ Purdue7 March, 2023 Edited March 27, 2023 by Madison22 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Watching The ‘Ville vs Beaumont Elite. Appreciate Cupps’ overall understanding of the game and that he doesn’t force things. Look forward to seeing him in the candy stripes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Between2Halls said: Watching The ‘Ville vs Beaumont Elite. Appreciate Cupps’ overall understanding of the game and that he doesn’t force things. Look forward to seeing him in the candy stripes. Do you think he’s ready to contribute day 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: Do you think he’s ready to contribute day 1? Maybe not day 1, but it will be hard to keep him off the floor. The intangibles are there IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 He had an unforced turnover during the game, and the announcer said something like it being good to see that Cupps is human. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogermci Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 Does he have another televised game in this event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rogermci said: Does he have another televised game in this event? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Last evening was the first time I've seen GC play and it was a "split decision" for me. The good part is that it's clear he's active on both ends and has that "floor general" vibe about him. It's also pretty obvious that he's had good coaching and learned from it. Obviously his shooting performance was unimpressive. Maybe just an off night or perhaps the result of playing against a highly athletic opposing team. It made me think of the only time I ever saw Perea play before suiting up in C&C - it was a similar HS national tournament. That was when I realized the guy (HP) was an extraordinary athletic with little basketball skill (likely due to subpar coaching). GC is kind of the opposite but will likely need time to adjust and get stronger. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: Last evening was the first time I've seen GC play and it was a "split decision" for me. The good part is that it's clear he's active on both ends and has that "floor general" vibe about him. It's also pretty obvious that he's had good coaching and learned from it. Obviously his shooting performance was unimpressive. Maybe just an off night or perhaps the result of playing against a highly athletic opposing team. It made me think of the only time I ever saw Perea play before suiting up in C&C - it was a similar HS national tournament. That was when I realized the guy (HP) was an extraordinary athletic with little basketball skill (likely due to subpar coaching). GC is kind of the opposite but will likely need time to adjust and get stronger. I thought the same thing...His shot selection was, in my mind, poor...But I did like other parts of his game... Just not sure he's going to be the contributor some think right off the bat... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: I thought the same thing...His shot selection was, in my mind, poor...But I did like other parts of his game... Just not sure he's going to be the contributor some think right off the bat... Agree. I had to chuckle when the announcers brought up Damon Bailey when speaking about Cupps, but to their credit they did acknowedge he might not be the scorer Damon was...lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Billingsley99 Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 11:20 AM, IUFLA said: Well, Gabe will certainly get more NIL money @Billingsley99 made the observation that Cupps was better than Smith some time ago...And he's got a coaching background...I'll take his word for it... I am now just a lurker not a poster but Here is my take on this topic. I wanted Smith to IU badly I think I saw him play as much as anyone not in his immediate family. Like everything about the kid and truly hate that he went to PU. He had some highs and lows this year due to being forced to play in the BIG as a freshman. He is for real and will have a stellar 4 years at PU I saw many of Cupps games and feel that he is everything that Smith is but just a little better in each area. His athleticism is much better than Smith and will surprise many people. He is a coaches son and has connections that Smith did not ( not just LBJ but that is big for many reasons.) Cupps will not be asked to contribute from day 1, so a freshmen year comparison will not be accurate. For all of the reasons mentioned as of March 31, 2023 I am saying Cupps is a much better player than Smith. Once again no knock on Smith at all and I hope my assessment of Cupps is accurate and with the weapons that Woody surrounds him with Cupps will be an all time fan favorite. IMO!! Back to the occasional lurking!! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 My observation of Cupps is that he is willing to do whatever is needed to help his team. He does not need to be the alpha, but it’s in him if needed. I am excited to see him get to campus. It’s already apparent that he’s a big fan of IU, and will be a nice ambassador in that respect. I for one would not sleep on him. I figure he will be a freshman that will be hard to keep off the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Between2Halls said: My observation of Cupps is that he is willing to do whatever is needed to help his team. He does not need to be the alpha, but it’s in him if needed. I am excited to see him get to campus. It’s already apparent that he’s a big fan of IU, and will be a nice ambassador in that respect. I for one would not sleep on him. I figure he will be a freshman that will be hard to keep off the court. But will he make Bardo’s all freshman team? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, Drroogh said: But will he make Bardo’s all freshman team? Who? 🤓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 As long as he doesn't grow that unfortunate chin beard, that alone would have me comfortable saying Cupps will be better than Smith. 😁 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Coaches son means he’s old for his class and knows fundamentals Knows to listen to authority and play his role if you had 13 coaches sons life would be a dream for the coaches PS. Jaden Ivey must have skipped all those lessons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Coaches son means he’s old for his class and knows fundamentals Knows to listen to authority and play his role if you had 13 coaches sons life would be a dream for the coaches PS. Jaden Ivey must have skipped all those lessons I wonder who taught James Blackmon, Jr. how to play defense? Never mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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