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I have no faith they won't mess this up. I hope I am proven completely wrong but Indiana is just awful at all things football.

We didn't stack #1 teams. Knight usually had a 4 to 5 year build to a Championship caliber team with good teams in between.

In some instances they are.

Look, we have things to work on. A whole lot of things. That said, I believe this is the first game where we beat the spread and we got positive minutes out of a bunch of our bench. If that trajectory speeds up a bit, we could be alright. We still need to find some shooters to keep things honest on the interior, we still need to work on defensive rotations, and Mgbako needs to figure things out. We have to see the aggressiveness in going after boards the way our second team got after it yesterday. For as bad as we have played, we are still chalk at this point IMO. As long as we keep winning the game we are supposed to win as we learn, we give ourselves a chance if/when we figure things out. For us to be where we want to be in March and April though, we have to figure those things out.

For a fan base that grew up on Bob Knight (for many of us), all the complaining about negativity. He literally wrote a book about how negativity is a good thing...

Nice sentiment from Vic. Hope the guys really take that to heart.

I honestly wouldn't mind him or Banks starting at that 3 spot in the next game. Maybe giving Mbako a chance to watch the game for a bit and then come in would help him for a few games. At least if or until he gets it going.

Well we won

I mean, he said yesterday we did end his college career....

Ware needs to give that back up. I don't want turn around 10 to 12 footers from my center.

That is what always happens around here. When times are good it is just good stuff regurgitated over and over. That's message boards.

We need to move Ware up to the top of the key and have him setting those wide leg, hip checking screens to get guards open up there that everyone runs these days. They are all illegal screens but they don't get called, so make that part of the game. To me it is all about intention. When our bigs set that screen, they expect that 80% of the time they are getting the ball out of the pick. I feel other teams are using it to get their guard to the hole if the defender follows or an open 3 if the defender goes under the screen. The screen is designed to free up the guard for our opponents and for us it is designed to get the ball to a post player. (And an issue we have had since Woodson got here is 2 post players clogging that area.) It is all about emphasis. We don't run much of anything for our perimeter players. They have to create to get their own. What little we create that could be for them we instead use to get the ball to our 2 5* bigs at the 4 and 5. Something they rarely return when it comes to kick outs. So we have spot shooters like Mgbako, Cupps, and Gunn who are generally throwing up rushed shots because the few open shots the offense creates for them are completely missed by the guys going 1 v 3 in the post on every play.

He is lost more often than he isn't. If he was any other player (like Gunn or Banks) he would be on the pine to start the game. I wouldn't start him today. Gunn hasn't been all world but I think he deserves that 3 spot and I would bring in Mgbako for Reneau.

I don't know why you are expecting sunshine and roses after 3 lackluster wins against vastly inferior competition and a 20 point blowout loss to the first team we played with a pulse. If it weren't for the dead horse to beat, there wouldn't be anything to talk about. We haven't played well this year at all. Discussion is going to reflect that.

You have 3 guys starting that basically are all interested in playing the same position. Your 2 main scorers so far are players that demand the ball in the same area and each has a legitimate claim to being the "guy" down there. You once again do not have a shooter/slasher on the wing and the aforementioned 2 "alphas" down low clog the lane so you have 3 guys standing around on the perimeter. One is basically a 4 being asked to play a 3 so he has become Miller Kopp. Stand in the corner, too slow to take his man, hoping for kick outs that don't come. The guards similarly have no driving lanes, the pick and roll is almost entirely designed to get our 2 bigs the ball, and we run nothing to get open looks for perimeter players. Looks they could get are often missed because the 2 black holes down low are focused on one thing when they get the ball. We were 3/13 from 3. 2/3 of our made 3's were from our 7'1" center at the top of the key. The most inexplicable and unexcusable thing for me is the lack of rebounding though. If you are going to build a big team that has no 3 point shooting and slow defense on the perimeter, you HAVE to rebound. We got punked yesterday and basically held out our plate and asked for more gruel.

The refs.

Well we embarrassed ourselves. Probably won't be around much to bitch about this after the fact but this entire program can't get right. It gets old.

That Clingan highlight film was at least 3 fouls and maybe 1 more with the poke from behind that was a bit of a judgment call.

Bull shit

We start making a run and the whistles come out

Need to find a few more scorers and we can maybe make them sweat in the 2nd half.

Come on with that last foul

Would love to see this at 5 or 6 going into half.

Another missed foul leads to a run out.

We need someone on the perimeter to give Malik and Kel-el some help.