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According to his profile, he last posted on November 8th, but he did visit the site on December 18th.

Why would Purdue losing be 'sad'?

Montana State?

I literally cannot watch the Michigan Maryland game any longer because Dakich is on the call.

West Virginia not helping its image. Health officials in West Virginia mistakenly gave 42 people Covid-19 antibodies instead of the vaccine - CNN

It's becoming increasingly difficult to see how IU finishes in the top half of the conference.

Good news. I have an appointment with my primary scheduled for another reason in late January. Hoping to at least find out then when I can get it.

I was doing the same thing as Pooh at the office a couple of years ago. My manager called the hospital. Some guys in white coats put a special jacket on me and escorted me out.

Something I'm curious about. Since many states seem to be reporting people who have traces of the virus in their system as Covid related deaths, how is that going to work once the vaccine has been administered? Doesn't the vaccine include traces of the virus? I ask because so much attention is being given towards long term care patients getting the vaccine. I've seen multiple news stories about this 100 year old or this 98 year old getting the vaccine. There is a pretty fair chance they will be dying within the next couple of years anyway. I'm not against them getting the vaccine, but I would hope that, if they do pass away in the next 2-3 months, it's not counted as a Covid death just because there is evidence of the virus or anti-bodies in their system. If they are counted, our numbers aren't going to show much improvement because among the first group getting the vaccine, there is a higher than normal probability of death anyway.

Whatever we feel about the virus, we can't ignore the fact that it kills people. And, in some cases it can take huge chunks of a family all at once. This is s story from Southern Indiana where a pastor, his sister, and his mother all succumbed to the virus this holiday season. I've seen many of these types of stories over the months, and they are always tragic. This one caught my eye more than usual because I'm pretty sure I drive by this church every time I head up to Bloomington for a ball game. I didn't know the family at all, but the church is somewhat of a marker for me when driving to and from a game. The flu doesn't often take multiple family members at once. Neither does cancer, heart disease, dementia, etc. This virus does that far too often. That's what makes it different, and is one of the main reasons we should respect it despite the enormous amount of misinformation and politicalization of it. Three Indiana family members die in same week from coronavirus | whas11.com

Glad to hear her test was negative. Hope she feels better soon.

Your browsing history probably influences what is returned to you. If I search the same topic, I do get some returns where the numbers are being questioned. Most of them were from April, early May, but there were some from December as well. That said, I firmly believe the media is questioning the numbers because of who the Governor is. As I pointed out earlier, Florida's death rate is significantly higher than California's, but significantly lower than Illinois (I intentionally did not use New York because we have to accept the fact that when they got hit hard, we did not have the info we do now). So, in the media's eyes - California's leadership did a great job keeping deaths low - Florida has artificially kept theirs low. - Illinois, well they tried just as hard as California, but it just didn't work, I could look at that information and say that, if Illinois is being honest, then Florida is apparently cheating, but California must REALLY be cheating.

I'm not going to speculate on what the State Senator's larger point was, or even if there was one. But, if we're trying the assign blame on to why this discussion is even happening, that blame has to start and end with whoever reported the car accident and drowning victims as Covid deaths. Without those intentional acts of deception, this discussion would not be happening. That's who should be the source of our frustration, not the politician who called it out, regardless of what ulterior motive that politician may or may not have.

Look, my whole rant throughout the whole day in this thread is based on the interview I saw on GMA this morning. The guest speaker was making a valid point that progress was being made in some parts of the country, and the GMA host wanted nothing to do with that. He cut the guy off and said, let's talk about California. Yes, things are awful in parts of California. But, I call BS when 6-7 weeks ago all the media wanted to talk about was how bad it was in the upper Midwest, but now they want nothing to do with it since it's trending away from the media's narrative.

I totally agree that we, as a country, screwed the pooch on this. But, if I was a State Senator in Minnesota, I would be questioning some of those deaths as well, and it would not have anything to do with me trying to undermine the effects of the pandemic. I would do it so that my state was being truthful, and so that the people I serve had ACCURATE information to base their personal decisions on.

I don't necessarily consider an article that questions why a drowning or auto accident victim is considered a Covid death as 'crazy'. It's honestly no different than questioning Florida if they have been sweeping deaths under the rug. I mean, if Weird Al Yankovic said the sky was blue and Albert Einstein said it was orange, should we all automatically accept it was orange based on the reputations of the two people that were saying it?

It's all good. I just find it interesting that 95% of the American people believe that a certain politician or a certain media source is only reliable if they say something that agrees with their own set of beliefs. I can't help but laugh and shake my head at those people that are flooding social media with criticism of Fox News for 'selling out' because some of their personalities shifted a bit towards the middle after the election. What we need is for the extremists on each side to make a similar shift towards the middle. The American people need begin demanding the truth, or we will never be what we could be as a nation.

I think we need to avoid looking at WHO is saying it and look more at WHAT is being said. Throughout all of this, I've never used what someone like AOC or Bernie Sanders said to prove a point. Bottom line is that if a person drowned or was ejected from a car, they did not die of Covid. It doesn't matter whether Scott Jansen or Hubert Humphrey said it. If it's true those deaths were counted, that's open for ridicule.

I'm going to keep up my little media rant for one more post. And, I'm very interested in the thoughts of those of you that don't question the media have to say about this. When cases were surging in the Dakotas and the rest of the upper Midwest, we were inundated with headlines screaming about it. I visit cnn.com daily and saw headline after headline stating things like 14 STATES SET NEW DAILY CASE RECORDS. The headlines were intended to incite fear. Now, today, the headlines are all about concerns over a holiday induced spike. However, as I referenced above, in the same part of the country that was getting all the attention 2-3 months ago, cases have been going down since BEFORE the holiday season. Yet, no mention of that anywhere, I was watching Good Morning America this morning and a gentleman being interviewed mentioned the progress in the upper Midwest, and the GMA host said something like "I want to talk about what's going on in California'. It was almost like the speaker wasn't allowed to talk about anything positive. or more likely, something that contradicted the narrative that the media has been spinning. Here is the link where you can look up the numbers for individual states. Simply click on the link for each state and look at the graphs for 7 day moving averages, You'll see that the states I referenced above all peaked before Thanksgiving. United States Coronavirus: 19,723,608 Cases and 342,728 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

You're not displaying the story that I was referencing. It may be the same general content, but it is not the source I was referencing. The story I am referencing does not have those other items on the side that you have pasted. Minnesota lawmakers say coronavirus deaths could be inflated by 40% after reviewing death certificates (washingtonexaminer.com)

According to Worldometer (which is used by Johns Hopkins), Florida has the 21st highest death rate with 992 deaths per 1 million population Here are some other states. Texas - 938 per million (27th highest) California - 618 per million (40th highest) Ohio - - 733 per million (36th highest) .United States Coronavirus: 19,723,608 Cases and 342,728 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info) This may be another case of the media trying to conjure up a story that really isn't there.

Not taking sides here, but in reading the link Reacher provided, this is not just idle politicking going on here. Here are some specific excerpts from the article. Yes. People die of Covid. But people who drown and people that are ejected from a car should NOT be counted as Covid deaths. And, before the source is questioned. No, you won't see a story like this in the Washington Post or the New York Times. But, that's part of the problem. Those are mainstream media sources that lie to us, or twist information, just as much as non main street media does in order to support their own agenda. both sides just need to tell the truth, but that will never happen. State Rep. Mary Franson and state Sen. Scott Jensen released a video last week revealing that after reviewing thousands of death certificates in the state, 40% did not have COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death. “I have other examples where COVID isn’t the underlying cause of death, where we have a fall. Another example is we have a freshwater drowning. We have dementia. We have a stroke and multiorgan failure,” Franson said in the video. She added that in one case, a person who was ejected from a car was “counted as a COVID death” because the virus was in his system.