Inequality Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 Starting the off-season thread with a few thoughts from ol’Fisch. Don is one of my favorites around IU sports. He is much older than myself and has seen more IUBB up close and personal so when he shares his thoughts I listen. Let’s start off with sharing our position going into the offseason knowing Trace and likey Jalen are gone. Although I had a buddy show up yesterday that claims he was told Jalen is returning, I just don’t see it happening. Duncomb is in the portal and likely to lose a couple to a few more. Probably Geronimo and maybe even Bates transferring. I actually thought we might hear something about Banks looking elsewhere as well. Maybe not. What are your expectations for the next season? How do we stack up in the B1G next season without our all American big TJD and NBA lottery pick guard JHS? With kind of an unassembled puzzle of a remaining roster, what pieces should we be looking for. Some of your answers to these questions are floating about in various threads. It would be nice to have one thread as the hang out and chat all things related to IUBB off season as we move into and through the summer and fall seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan615 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I read that Dusty May has had 5 years at Florida Atlantic to instill his culture and build his team. Next year’s team should show us more of CMW’s imprint and what he is trying to build at IU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Inequality said: Although I had a buddy show up yesterday that claims he was told Jalen is returning, More context? Is he connected or has he been right in the past? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: More context? Is he connected or has he been right in the past? About Jalen? Nah. He’s just wishful thinking I’m sure. Don’t believe that until it happens. If I told you names of the group that hang out at the Tap & Upland pretty regular you would like to believe what they say but they cut up, prank and goof off so much you just honestly never know. I think Jalen goes first round. I’ve seen him projected as high as 13th earlier around maybe February. Recently he has fallen a bit to around 17th. It sure would mean a whole lot to us fans and the program if he were to return. I could only imagine. But, as a kid, going pro and collecting 9 million by your 21st birthday sounds like a great plan. I don’t blame him one bit. Him returning though, man that could be a season trajectory changer. Trace has one more year of eligibility as well. They could come together like Miami players did and set the goal to go deeper into March next season but thats also a IU fan pipe dream. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Inequality said: About Jalen? Nah. He’s just wishful thinking I’m sure. Don’t believe that until it happens. If I told you names of the group that hang out at the Tap & Upland pretty regular you would like to believe what they say but they cut up, prank and goof off so much you just honestly never know. I think Jalen goes first round. I’ve seen him projected as high as 13th earlier around maybe February. Recently he has fallen a bit to around 17th. It sure would mean a whole lot to us fans and the program if he were to return. I could only imagine. But, as a kid, going pro and collecting 9 million by your 21st birthday sounds like a great plan. I don’t blame him one bit. Him returning though, man that could be a season trajectory changer. Trace has one more year of eligibility as well. They could come together like Miami players did and set the goal to go deeper into March next season but thats also a IU fan pipe dream. Oh yeah, if I were him, if he were my kid, if I was advising him... I'd say go pro as fast as you can young man. But.... I'd love him (and TJD) back. I think both should go though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Oh yeah, if I were him, if he were my kid, if I was advising him... I'd say go pro as fast as you can young man. But.... I'd love him (and TJD) back. I think both should go though. Up until the last couple years I'd be right there with you, but nil changes the calculus of the decision some. If you have the chance to hold on to your college years for one more year while also putting 1 million in the bank, it allows you to make that decision if you want without the specter of injury being completely devastating to your future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: Up until the last couple years I'd be right there with you, but nil changes the calculus of the decision some. If you have the chance to hold on to your college years for one more year while also putting 1 million in the bank, it allows you to make that decision if you want without the specter of injury being completely devastating to your future. I hear you, but $1M doesn't really set you up for life anymore and we are talking about tens of millions of dollars. I am sure there will be some that make the calculation you just laid out, but if it were me or someone I love I'd still be saying go pro in Jalen's situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I hear you, but $1M doesn't really set you up for life anymore and we are talking about tens of millions of dollars. I am sure there will be some that make the calculation you just laid out, but if it were me or someone I love I'd still be saying go pro in Jalen's situation. But that million could help you afford to get insurance in case of injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: But that million could help you afford to get insurance in case of injury Sure, and some guys may do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: I hear you, but $1M doesn't really set you up for life anymore and we are talking about tens of millions of dollars. I am sure there will be some that make the calculation you just laid out, but if it were me or someone I love I'd still be saying go pro in Jalen's situation. No disagreement here, it's just not as cut and dry as it used to be. Pre NIL, it's a no brainier. Now, there's at least a little bit of nuance to the decision. I also think being 18 and thrust into the adult life of the NBA is not exactly healthy either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: But that million could help you afford to get insurance in case of injury I would assume that a VERY healthy insurance plan, would be part of a paid NIL deal. To me that would be a game changer. I thought I wanted to be in the adult world when I was 18-19-20, but I had no business doing so. At lest not in one in the bright ligths with 10 mil paychecks. Edited March 29, 2023 by Joe_Hoopsier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: But that million could help you afford to get insurance in case of injury 1 hour ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: I would assume that a VERY healthy insurance plan, would be part of a paid NIL deal. To me that would be a game changer. I thought I wanted to be in the adult world when I was 18-19-20, but I had no business doing so. At lest not in one in the bright ligths with 10 mil paychecks. Hmmm… aren’t there a few ex-Hoosier players in the insurance business?😗 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Hmmm… aren’t there a few ex-Hoosier players in the insurance business?😗 Is Derick doing insurance or banking? Potato/ Potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I hear you, but $1M doesn't really set you up for life anymore and we are talking about tens of millions of dollars. I am sure there will be some that make the calculation you just laid out, but if it were me or someone I love I'd still be saying go pro in Jalen's situation. Give me a $1M and I am more than set up for life! Why is a $1M at 19- 20 yrs not enough? I know the talent and money is there. But dang enjoy being young and what college is about!!! Sorry money is not all it is some think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Big off season for Banks, Gunn. Have to take some steps in their skill development. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABBATHEHOOSIER Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, btownqb said: Big off season for Banks, Gunn. Have to take some steps in their skill development. I really love the potential of these two and I really hope their names do not end up in the portal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KoB2011 Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Inequality said: What a strange list. Some guys got major bumps, presumably because of the tournament, which is fair enough. But then Painter is sitting at 8… So are we giving the tournament a ton of weight or no? I think you can make a case either way, but it should be a consistent factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 Izzo at #19!?! That is a tough list lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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