BGleas Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, IndyHoosier said: Yeah, that doesn't make Dane Fife responsible for those numbers or a better head coach of a program than Mike Woodson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Thank you Doc Councilman for the candy striped pants that's the one new thing I got out of the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyHoosier Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, BGleas said: Yeah, that doesn't make Dane Fife responsible for those numbers or a better head coach of a program than Mike Woodson. You’re right, data lies. Maybe sleepy Mike can keep us within 50 of Kansas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, IndyHoosier said: You’re right, data lies. Maybe sleepy Mike can keep us within 50 of Kansas Nobody said data lies. But, that data isn't remotely saying what you seem to be trying to indicate it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 We’re going to get 30 pieced at home against Kansas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: IU Scott and IU Joe are okay with settling and being mediocre. Typical BS statement from someone who thinks pissing all over message boards means you have high standards. I was an IU student the last time we won a National Championship. No one wants another one more than I do. I'm not about to help our fan base look like a bunch of damn fools on message boards, thinking that's going to help me get one. Some of you are a lot bigger embarrassment than any basketball game will ever be. Edited December 9, 2023 by IUJoe 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, IndyHoosier said: Oh shucks, I dunno, maybe because the coaches they did hire currently have both their teams in the top 25? Point is, IU is no longer a blue blood. As much as it hurts to say, we are not a player in todays college basketball landscape. If we are, the university needs to grow some balls and act like it. You don’t hire 98 year old sleepy Mike to put the final nail in the coffin. Dusty May. Michael Lewis. Dane Fife. Any of the three would be immediate upgrades if we insist on “keeping it in the family.” If we don’t want an IU guy, then go hire anyone in the top 25-40, any would be an upgrade over Woody. Hell, go hire Chris Hawkins from Attucks lol. He’d be an upgrade too To me our mediocrity isn't just based on bad coaching or AD's. Since RMK left we have had 6 coaches, 5 AD's and 4 presidents. The BOT has all changed in that time so there is more to it than just keep firing people. Maybe we are cursed or that we had touch success under RMK and now is time for IU fans to be humbled. We need to change the culture around the program and maybe tear down all the old traditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyHoosier Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me our mediocrity isn't just based on bad coaching or AD's. Since RMK left we have had 6 coaches, 5 AD's and 4 presidents. The BOT has all changed in that time so there is more to it than just keep firing people. Maybe we are cursed or that we had touch success under RMK and now is time for IU fans to be humbled. We need to change the culture around the program and maybe tear down all the old traditions. Look at the hires…Davis. Crean. Arch. Mike. Come on. You think those guys get hired at a true blue blood? That’s as lazy and half assed as you possibly can be. The university needs to match the fanbases effort. And it’s easy to see, we are on the opposite end of the spectrum in our outlook, but at the end of the day I respect your opinion and mean no disrespect. We both want the program to win, and win big, and I just don’t think that agenda is being pushed hard enough from the people who can actually drive change. Edited December 10, 2023 by IndyHoosier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Wasn’t able to watch today….what the heck happened? I taped the game, but doubt I’ll watch it considering the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Who could have seen this coming?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Whatever this staff didn’t like in Caleb Love… they were 1000% wrong. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Who could have seen this coming?!? It’s so hard to win against quality opponents with limited guard play. We’re obviously seeing this first hand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: He had a great prediction last year - were did that get us in terms of Woody's two goals? I'm not sure how relevant your last statement is to the conversation at hand...Some were kicking dirt on us right after the Penn State loss last year... But it was those who believed in that team and coach that were vindicated... Woody's been here a little over 2 years... He's produced 2 NCAA teams, the 2nd one finishing 2nd in the league in spite of losing XJ and having the toughest Big 10 schedule... So I know patience is not a virtue to many on here, but come on... Let's see how it plays out... Edited December 10, 2023 by IUFLA 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Whatever this staff didn’t like in Caleb Love… they were 1000% wrong. Give me Caleb Love any day of the year. He leads the #1 team in the country and it’s become clearer he unfairly took much of the blame on UnC failures Edited December 10, 2023 by Hoosier987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, BGleas said: Yeah, that doesn't make Dane Fife responsible for those numbers or a better head coach of a program than Mike Woodson. You have to wonder why Dane doesn't have a job in college basketball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, BGleas said: Yeah, that doesn't make Dane Fife responsible for those numbers or a better head coach of a program than Mike Woodson. Those were Archie's guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Wasn’t able to watch today….what the heck happened? I taped the game, but doubt I’ll watch it considering the outcome. Auburn played their best game of the year and Indiana played their worst. Auburn hit 8 more threes, had 9 less turnovers and 11 more assists. Their guard play was many classes better than ours today. Overall, we did a terrific job keeping their star Broome to only 2 points. Rebounding was even today which is a plus because that was a concern earlier in the year. Fouls were similar for both team and Indiana attempted 6 more free throws. We can't win when another team hit 8 more threes and we lose 9 more possessions to turnovers. Edited December 10, 2023 by SawatchHoosier 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: I'm not sure how relevant your last statement is to the conversation at hand...Some were kicking dirt on us right after the Penn State loss last year... But it was those who believed in that team and coach that were vindicated... Woody's been here a little over 2 years... He's produced 2 NCAA teams, the 2nd one finishing 2nd in the league in spite of losing XJ and having the toughest Big 10 schedule... So I know patience is not a virtue to many on here, but come on... Let's see how it plays out... I certainly don’t want to make this about last year, but if that end result was vindicated there is a fundamental difference in our standards. I’ll side with the great Mike Woodson, he knows more than all of us, and he says Big Ten Titles and National Titles are the standard. Year 1: Miracle run to even make the First Four, got embarrassed in the round of 64. Year 2: Embarrassed in the first weekend Year 3: Not tracking towards the tournament currently. So yeah, things improved after Penn State but it still didn’t get to a good enough place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 We completely went into Puss mode after after our superstar Freshman got punked in the face and the call went against him. We really needed to muddy this game up to make the officials make the correct calls. But we just limped away like little girls. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I certainly don’t want to make this about last year, but if that end result was vindicated there is a fundamental difference in our standards. I’ll side with the great Mike Woodson, he knows more than all of us, and he says Big Ten Titles and National Titles are the standard. Year 1: Miracle run to even make the First Four, got embarrassed in the round of 64. Year 2: Embarrassed in the first weekend Year 3: Not tracking towards the tournament currently. So yeah, things improved after Penn State but it still didn’t get to a good enough place. I think in year two finishing 2nd in the league and winning a tournament game is alright for year two. Unless you thought we should already been the final 4 I would say your expectations are out of whack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Auburn played their best game of the year and Indiana played their worst. Auburn hit 8 more threes, had 9 less turnovers and 11 more assists. Their guard play was many classes better than ours today. Overall, we did a terrific job keeping their star Broome to only 2 points. Rebounding was even today which is a plus because that was a concern earlier in the year. Fouls were similar for both team and Indiana attempted 6 more free throws. We can't win when another team hit 8 more threes and we lose 9 more possessions to turnovers. Well, at least it wasn’t all bad. Just don’t understand how we could possibly give up over a 100 pts to anybody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think in year two finishing 2nd in the league and winning a tournament game is alright for year two. Unless you thought we should already been the final 4 I would say your expectations are out of whack. I think it’s alright but it sure doesn’t look like we are building on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Well, at least it wasn’t all bad. Just don’t understand how we could possibly give up over a 100 pts to anybody. Apparently, according to the rational minds, it was all just bad luck and Auburn hitting tough shots. How rational… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, MSHoosier said: Don't know where that is coming from. I saw three McD's boys, a six year and a four year guard and thought we should be good. The guards have not been good enough, and that was certainly true today. Just my personal opinion I guess. From an evaluation standpoint, I didn’t think we’d have the guard play to compete at a very high level. Yes, our bigs are super talented but we have next to no perimeter shot makers, nor can they create off the bounce. In order for Woodson’s system to flourish, he needs high level guard play. We just don’t have that on this roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think in year two finishing 2nd in the league and winning a tournament game is alright for year two. Unless you thought we should already been the final 4 I would say your expectations are out of whack. Tjd said their goal was Final Four. I’m not saying Final Four…that was TJD. Nonetheless, a second weekend trip with the best player in the country and a top 20 draft pick point guard shouldn’t be all that much to ask. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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