Hoosier987 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Really don’t think that slightly pumping the brakes on the runaway hype train after getting destroyed by a mid-major in the home opener is overreacting, but you’re entitled to your opinion. Come together Hoosier Nation. We will be fine 👍. Last night was ugly, but we have a lot to look forward to in the future. I can't wait till Monday afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Really don’t think that slightly pumping the brakes on the runaway hype train after getting destroyed by a mid-major in the home opener is overreacting, but you’re entitled to your opinion. Really don't think you and many others are slightly pumping the brakes. Anyone questioning Archie as a good hire after one game is completely overreacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Really don't think you and many others are slightly pumping the brakes. Anyone questioning Archie as a good hire after one game is completely overreacting. Where did I say that? I still think he was a good hire, all I’m saying is that maybe it’s time to stop heaping constant praise on him before he’s accomplished anything and immediately after an embarrassing loss. You’re making excuses for him that he wouldn’t even be making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Where did I say that? I still think he was a good hire, all I’m saying is that maybe it’s time to stop heaping constant praise on him before he’s accomplished anything and immediately after an embarrassing loss. You’re making excuses for him that he wouldn’t even be making. 1 hour ago, FW_Hoosier said: Not trying to overreact to one game, but I think it might be time to pump the brakes on Archie. We fell all over ourselves about press conferences and 4 star recruits. Granted, a lot of this game was obviously on the players being mentally soft. They are all role players - not a single alpha dog on the team. But at the same time, a 20+ loss to a shitty MVC team in the home opener is... pathetic and absolutely unacceptable. Like Archie himself said, that is on the coach. The “they’re a tough team that shot the lights out” excuses are bogus. They are not a good team, and all IU fans should realize by now that teams don’t just “shoot the lights out” by accident. Championship-level programs don’t make those types of excuses. The staff and players better figure it out quickly, or this could devolve into a dumpster fire with our brutal early schedule. At this point, we could easily be looking at 5-6 non-conference losses and an 0-4 start in conference play by January. I sure read this as you saying we've all been wrong about Archie because of one game. Am I to understand you saying we fell all over ourselves is a good thing, not you saying we were wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 To me I don't like seeing Vandy on that list because I don't think Romeo would even be looking at them if he knew Garland wasn't going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I sure read this as you saying we've all been wrong about Archie because of one game. Am I to understand you saying we fell all over ourselves is a good thing, not you saying we were wrong? Nowhere did I say he was a bad hire. I’m saying that we might have got ahead of ourselves with visions of banners dancing in our heads after Archie won the offseason. He was a good hire and is definitely one of the better young up and coming coaches, but he still has a lot to prove. Of course, it was just one game. The season isn’t close to over, although it’s not looking great right now. But even Archie himself said this terrible loss was on him. I’m going to wait and see where things stand after this season before I anoint him the savior of the program. If you think that’s being unreasonable, okay I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me I don't like seeing Vandy on that list because I don't think Romeo would even be looking at them if he knew Garland wasn't going there. My thought as well, but Romeo may not know where Darius is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me I don't like seeing Vandy on that list because I don't think Romeo would even be looking at them if he knew Garland wasn't going there. He doesn't know where Garland is going. Only Garland and his parents know where he is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: He doesn't know where Garland is going. Only Garland and his parents know where he is going. So you think that Romeo would have a team like Vandy on his list if Garland didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 I'm saying he has them on his list in case Garland chooses Vanderbilt so he'll have the option of playing alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 So if Garland picks IU, is it safe to assume it is between us and KU for Romeo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: So if Garland picks IU, is it safe to assume it is between us and KU for Romeo? I'd say it's safe to assume that Romeo is IU's to lose if Garland were to commit to IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: So if Garland picks IU, is it safe to assume it is between us and KU for Romeo? Yes. If Garland commits to IU on Monday, I actually wouldnt be surprised to see Romeo follow rather quickly - maybe December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 I hope that I’m wrong, but I have that “Gary Harris” feeling about this recruitment. That being said, I know that Crean screwed the pooch on Harris and Archie has done a wonderful job making up ground in this case. However, we seemed pretty confident about landing him and missed. Once I see that we’re consistently bringing in five star recruits again, I’ll gain confidence, but it will be warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, KDB said: I'd say it's safe to assume that Romeo is IU's to lose if Garland were to commit to IU. That is how I feel as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: So if Garland picks IU, is it safe to assume it is between us and KU for Romeo? Here is how it will work out for Romeo based on who Garland chooses Garland chooses IU IU has a good season - Romeo chooses IU IU's performance last night is indicative of IU's season - Romeo chooses Kansas Garland Chooses Vandy IU has a good season, showing a lot of potential for next year - Romeo chooses IU IU's performance last night is indicative of IU's season - Romeo chooses Vandy We're in the running regardless of what Garland does. It's all predicated on not looking like we did last night for the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 IU just got a CB pick for Romeo from Josh Stirn, 25/32 for 2018 picks and an average of 131 days between prediction and commitment.. Gotta like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just wondering out loud to myself..... I am wondering how many other recruits that may have gotten offers from UCLA, North Carolina, and Kentucky, cut all three, when getting down to his last three schools ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Danomatic said: I hope that I’m wrong, but I have that “Gary Harris” feeling about this recruitment. That being said, I know that Crean screwed the pooch on Harris and Archie has done a wonderful job making up ground in this case. However, we seemed pretty confident about landing him and missed. Once I see that we’re consistently bringing in five star recruits again, I’ll gain confidence, but it will be warranted. When we landed Yogi it made it unlikely we were going to land Harris. Don't want to turn this into a Crean discussion, but he didn't screw the pooch on Harris, a recruiting miscue notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerHoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Not to mention we had Ron Patterson on board at that point in time which hindsight being 20/20 was a major mistake. So all slots were filled and Gary I am sure felt almost like an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 16 hours ago, 5fouls said: Here is how it will work out for Romeo based on who Garland chooses Garland chooses IU IU has a good season - Romeo chooses IU IU's performance last night is indicative of IU's season - Romeo chooses Kansas Garland Chooses Vandy IU has a good season, showing a lot of potential for next year - Romeo chooses IU IU's performance last night is indicative of IU's season - Romeo chooses Vandy We're in the running regardless of what Garland does. It's all predicated on not looking like we did last night for the entire season. I don't think we're getting Garland but if we do I'd say we're a lock to land Romeo. If he goes to Vandy then yes I agree, it will hinge on our performance this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 33 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I don't think we're getting Garland but if we do I'd say we're a lock to land Romeo. If he goes to Vandy then yes I agree, it will hinge on our performance this season. That's a lot of pressure to put on both the team and CAM..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: That's a lot of pressure to put on both the team and CAM..... I disagree with this. CAM already brought in a solid nucleus for 2018 of players he needs to build the team the way he wants. I also believe that if Langford is a true competitor and wants to be a true Hoosier great he would crave the opportunity to bring a team from the dumpster to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: That's a lot of pressure to put on both the team and CAM..... It's a true statement, though. Romeo Langford wants to win. It's all he's ever done. He's also a very bright kid and will recognize improvement. Progress throughout the season is imperative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: That's a lot of pressure to put on both the team and CAM..... Maybe so, but isn't that what these guys signed up for? I mean, this is supposed to be one of the elite basketball programs. Pressure kind of comes with wearing or coaching the Candy Stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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